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2020/12/15 at 4:33 pm #97313
I try not to be one of those people that post something and then never update with the results.
But the install got put off because of something happening (last minute change) in the auditorium the night of our scheduled install. I got a call from the sound company late in the afternoon the day before we were supposed to do the install canceling us. I thought that nothing has or would be going on in this auditorium due to Covid-19 restrictions and was very surprised.
So we are now scheduled to work this Thursday but the weather forecast for Wednesday night into Thursday is for a snow storm to hit us hard. At least hard for this area, Northeast USA near NYC. So we will see what happens this week. I won’t be surprised if it is postponed again.
2020/12/08 at 4:28 pm #97088Thank you everyone for your help and recommendations.
I already had SQ Mixpad 1.5 on my PC and I have the SQ7 1.5 firmware to load if it isn’t already loaded in the mixer.
I am not very good at just reading a manual without having the mixer in front of me. I look at manuals as more of a reference document that I can use to figure put how to do something specific. It is titled SQ Reference Guide.
2020/12/08 at 5:06 am #97065Thank you for the replies. This is a direct replacement at the moment for what presently exists. I just need to figure out what feeds what right now and make the SQ7 do that. There is supposed to be a time of training in the future. I have been tasked with this because I know a lot more than the sound company about most digital mixers. I am a freelance Audio Eng. and I have installed and or worked on digital mixers since the first ones that Yamaha made. I know that each one usually have some unique way of accomplishing things. It is the simple but sometimes not obvious ones that I am looking for information about. The SQ6 that we installed in another venue in August of 2018 has been in use without any changes since the install.
I assume that the firmware has changed and a little over 2 years and it is long enough to forget the idiosyncrasies. I already downloaded the latest firmware to my computer in case this one isn’t up to date. I think the stage box is an AR2412 (I know it is a 48k unit) does it need to have a firmware update to work with the SQ7? I couldn’t find any firmware updates for it on the A&H website.
I am basically going into this job blind. And that is not unusual for me. Sometimes I am involved in system design for this company and sometimes I am just thrown to the wolves. And I assume that if it is anything like any of the other schools around here they won’t even be using this for anything till the fall of 2021 at the earliest due to the Covid-19 restrictions. So if they had anyone last school year that knew anything about sound it will probably be completely different people by the time this gets used. I think some schools just need to spend their budgeted money now before they lose it.
I understand that you don’t know my level of expertise and I don’t know yours. I appreciate your input and I will try to check out some of the videos that Andre linked to.
Do the SQ mixer now have operator passwords like the Yamaha? That can come in handy. Also do you still need to format the USB thumb drive in the SQ mixer before you can use it? I just checked and I think one of the ones I normally carry with me was originally formatted on the SQ6 back in January of 2018.
2018/09/04 at 5:09 pm #78334If the Aux sends was post fader that should have worked. Because the AMM is post fader if you set it that way (follow fader).
2018/09/04 at 3:19 pm #78330Did you make sure that one mic thru the system works find with no feedback? What kinds of mics are you using and are they all the same or a mixture of brands and models? Are these table top mics or handheld mics or wireless body mics, or something else? Do you have all of the faders in the AMM set to “Follow Fader” and is the filter set the same (default) on all of the channels? You mentioned Aux 1-6 but I don’t understand how you are doing that is this to monitors or what are you doing with the Aux 1-6?
Make sure each mic works thru the system one at a time and they are all at the same level. Then if you bring them all up one at a time with everything set the same on each channel does it work ok till you get the 4th one up? Are you going thru a subgroup or mix bus or just direct to L/R? Try bringing the overall output down a little and then try bringing all 4 of the mics up to the same position on the faders. You probably want to do that with the output down and match the faders to the same position and then bring up the output fader to just below feedback. And then see if you can tell if the mics are being affected by the Auto Mixer correctly.
One way to test that besides looking at the screen on the SQ is to talk (or have someone else talk) into one mic (at a time) and then take a second mic and bring it up to your mouth right next to the first mic while constantly talking and then move the first mic away from your mouth. If the auto mix is working it should have basically sounded like you were only talking into one mic the whole time. You can also have 4 people talking into the mics and see if it on the SQ AMM screen it looks like as each person talks that that mic causes all the other to dip. How do you have the priority set on these mics in the AMM?
BTW auto mixers are meant for talking only they can get confused with music. I hope this is of some help.
2018/08/19 at 2:48 pm #73438I was trying to emphasize exactly what it is I am experiencing so that anyone else who reads this that might know the answer will hopefully be able to understand my issue. I am not a writer I just play one on the internet and I am not always sure I am making my point it writing something. I use a lot of words but I am not always sure if my point gets across in the sea of words.
BTW the SQ AMM doesn’t have the gated (I think they call that one the NOM – Number of Open Mics) method available. I am assuming that the SQ uses the original not the improved Dugan style Gain Sharing method and it should always be equal to the output of one mic as more mics are talked into. The Patent expired on the original Dugan method so that is what people copy. The Dugan Auto mixing improvement patents haven’t expired, to the best of my knowledge. At lest that is what he said last time I talked to him.
2018/08/19 at 2:10 pm #73436Thank you.
This part of my original post is the critical part.
I got the system sounding pretty good with one of the table top mics. In my experience since I have done this many times before, I figured I could just add the other table top mics but before I got past 4 of them up I was having feedback issues. I have been able to do a similar thing with 30 wireless bodypacks that with the Automixer working I could get one working and add all of the others with no problems, because the output was always equal to one mic. I know this (SQ Mixer AMM) is an attempt at a Dan Dugan style of automixer but it isn’t working like one
2018/08/19 at 1:14 pm #73434Thank you for your suggestions.
I actually read the SQ manual and the GLD manual I didn’t read the QU manual. The GLD seems to have another option as to how the AMM can work but that is not available on the SQ. And yes everything is on where it is supposed to be. And I also tried turning it off and it is functioning just not (with the default priority levels) how Automixers have in my experience.
I wasn’t going to say this because it sounds like bragging but when I say I do know a lot about automixers. I was a panelists with Dan Dugan at an AES conference in NYC on “Auto Mixing for live sound”. My specialty is the Shure SCM810 mixer, (with a bunch of them) linked together for panel discussions and also for the dialog parts in Musicals. And I only say that now so that people will know I probably didn’t do something simple wrong.
2018/08/09 at 4:14 pm #73248I would have thought that you would have used the F5 Fader version, the only one to the best of my knowledge that is to be used on non-metallic contacts. Unless you know that the Pots are metal contact surfaces. I thought most pots nowadays are plastic contact surfaces. Are the pots almost sealed? I say almost because most have a little hole that one can spray into directly. On some the spray will seep down the shaft of the pot.
2018/08/08 at 4:58 pm #73214Dizzy-Dale wrote
“Interesting. I’m having the same problem with about a half dozen knobs… Just hit them with some deoxit and will reassemble tomorrow. I’ll report back if cleaning the encoders works. 🙂”
Which DeoxIT did you use?
2018/07/06 at 12:42 pm #72442So I take your “at the moment” to mean that the Midi will be enabled at some time. I am a user of Palladium a scene management software by https://www.chsounddesign.com/ and I would like to write a Mixer file for the SQ mixer so they can be used for theatrical use with Palladium. I have access to grab an SQ6 at the moment but it sounds like it isn’t quite ready for me to write the file for it yet. I have written mixer files for other mixers.
I also plan on going to my church and witting a mixer file for the dLive console they have there, when we can arrange a time that works for the both of us.
Palladium takes scene management to a different level. I know what can be done in the mixer but the work flow and operation of Palladium has been the answer for me for scene management for Musical Theater. I have probably written about this on here before. If you want any more information let me know and I will try to answer any questions you may have.
2018/07/06 at 3:16 am #72437Does this mean that there is some Midi enabled in the SQ mixers. And if I install this drive on my Windows computer and then hook up an Ethernet cable between an SQ6 and my computer and select “Midi thru” I will be able to send and receive commands? Or is the Mid part of the SQ mixers not enabled yet?
2018/06/25 at 11:25 pm #72095Why not just route your stereo Main, if that is what you use, to one of the matrix outs and just don’t pan the matrix and only use one side of it. You can only patch one side of it in the I/O screen if you want to.
2018/06/10 at 6:49 pm #71697+1
2018/06/10 at 1:41 pm #71692I think it would be great if you had the option to have the display indicate the level of what the soft rotary is controlling. When playing around with configuring an SQ6, I assigned one it to be a fader in a layer that wasn’t showing and I had no idea how much the movement of the rotary was affecting the fader.
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