I don’t think it would be as simple as just recalling mutes first. For example if you go from SCENE A – which has a channel “x” with high gain but is muted to SCENE B which on the same channel “x” has lower gain but is unmuted then if the mute off was recalled before the gain changes then there will be a brief period of high gain. I believe the iLive scene recall gain issues are the result of the sequential recall of scene parameters with no regard to gain priority.
Perhaps what needs to happen is that the current scene/ state and the next scene need to be compared and parameters changed in the order of something like the following:

1 Recall lower gain settings from the next scene first – lower values for gain, eq, comp makeup, pad on, etc

2 Recall lower fader settings from the next scene including lower DCA levels

3 Add mutes from the next scene (combine mutes from both scenes – mutes on only) and recall new assignments

4 recall phantom power settings from the next scene

5 Recall higher gain settings from the next scene ( gain, eq boost, comp etc)

6 Recall higher fader settings from the next scene

7 Recall mutes “off” from the next scene

In other words – lower gain settings in the next scene have recall priority. This may create short gaps/ dropouts in live audio but that would be better than sudden loud feedback! Of course we also want recalls to happen as quickly as possible also!

Your thoughts?

Cheers

Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
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Hi Richard

The same would be the case in reverse as far as gain structures pre- mute is concerned and i think that highlights the issue of priority as you suggest in the scene recall software as the problem here doesn’t it?

I largely agree with your suggestions tho, however i still believe that mute recognition in the next scene is the simplest solution as it should be an instant change that doesn’t result in the momentary high gain howling that can happen now. Hmmmm an interesting one eh

As far as ddff suggests about putting in a ‘blank’ muted scene inbetween each saved scene is certainly a get out of jail option in the meantime, thanks for that suggestion ))