[tourtelotParticipant]

You may already know this but you need to make patches in two places to make the connection from the DSQ to a computer running DVS. You need to make output patches to Dante in the SQ on the I/O Port tab (I/O select button under the screen) and in Dante controller on your computer.

BTW, in my experience, SQ to Reaper works a treat.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

It is my experience that no one should use a flash drive to record from an SQ. I, and many others, experienced many catastrophic failures using flash drives. Some say they work successfully.

Now, I only use external HDDs that have a dedicated power supply. I have successfully used both spinning drives and SSDs.

YMMV

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

I use the on-board limiter on the Main L/R in RMS mode and in parallel compression. Since PC does not protect from OL, I need to be a bit conservative in my output level but I think that could be fixed with a “brick wall” limiter as the last thing in the chain. I think the PC on the SQ sounds mighty good. YMMV.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

I have done a lot of (failed) experiments trying to record multitrack off the SQ. Fortunate for me, I always run a clone recording on another device and hence, haven’t been fired by any clients. I try again today, 28 tracks at 24/48. Not quite brave enough to record at 24/96 yet.

I don’t believe that ANY USB “stick” is a safe device for recording multitrack on an SQ, no matter what.

I have been successful, so far, and lately using an external SSD that runs on its own wall-wart power supply. I may report back after tonight.

Sad that I can’t feel comfortable using my SQ as a recorder, and, in fact, would never record any job without a backup. I read in another thread, other complaints about the USB in the SQ, and Keith chimed in about A&H working on some “cures”. I really look forward to the day that I can record on my SQ worry-free.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

Thanks Keith. From my perspective, the way that USB works on the SQ is the, really, one thing that seems to cause lots of problems for lots of folks, in lots of different ways. I will be really please when owner of SQs can say that the USB function is “bomb-proof”. I await that day eagerly.

Thanks.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

Concerning the data loss problem (that is a BIG problem), what media are you having problems with? USB sticks? I have done a bit of experimenting with media and so far (and I wish I was firmly convinced that this was true), outboard powered HDDs, both SSD and spinning have been working for me. Around 17-20 tracks at 24/48. I have not tried higher track counts or higher SRs, and I ALWAYS run a backup via Dante on a MBP running Reaper.

I really wish I felt more confident about recording off the SQ desk. I never worry about reliability with my JoeCo BBR or my Sound Devices 788T. I don’t even sweat reliability on my MBP/Reaper and I HATE recording to computers.

Sigh.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

Tobi-

Can I assume that you have not heard back regarding this? Workaround, fix?

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

It does seem that the disk format for the SQ Drive is (somewhat) proprietary. I always freshly format any disk (spinning, SSD or USB stick) in my desk before I do anything file related. I’d be curious to hear from Keith if my thoughts on the format are correct.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

“I am in total agreement with the need for a much cleaner USB recording protocol even it turns out to be Stereo only like the DM3.”

I am in agreement with the need for a cleaner USB recording function in the SQ line, for sure. But not only stereo! I had my wallet out, ready to buy the DM3D until I found out it will only record stereo (not multi-track) on the board. That absolutely killed the deal for me.

I am looking for a multi-track solution in a smaller package (I have an SQ6). Even with my SQ6, my load for bigger location recording dates is smaller than before since I do not need to lug an outboard dedicated recorder to the job. On certain jobs in a venue that already has mics hung, I can take my SQ and a MBP and record the job, with a backup; Reaper on the MBP. No JoeCo and no need to risk a “primary” recording on a computer (even as Reaper on a MBP has turned out to be super reliable). I will almost certainly, not buy an SQ5; I can deal with the size of the SQ6 in any need I have for the SQ’s functionality. But if Yamaha had made the DM3D multi-track capable . . .

Just goes to prove that every owner has different priorities and so, the Yammy and the SQ can go on happily down the road knowing that each will have its uses.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

The pictured connector is used on a printed circuit boad so yes, soldering (and unsoldering) would be required.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

So FWIW, I rarely record at anything other than 48k and my largish Dante network works completely flawlessly at that rate. Works well at 96k as well when called for. And sometimes, I run two different sample rates on the network at the same time; of course 48k devices will only talk to 48k devices. Likewise 96k talking only to 96k.

But there is no Dante device in my network that won’t do both rates albeit 96k devices typically will only support one-half the number of tracks, as you already know.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

I believe that it is, maybe, a matter of the SQ not being able to supply the amount of power (amps not volts) to the USB socket. Is that the reason that outboard powered external drives, even spinning drives, seem to do okay?

I only hope I don’t get bitten if I need to record a large “hi-def” track count. 17 tracks at 24/48 did not seem to stress the SQ, using the SSD, in the least.

I ALWAYS record a backup if the recording is important.

As to the JoeCo. I love my JoeCo BBR64 Dante but there are jobs where I just don’t want to drag all that stuff to the show. Interesting that JoeCo has sorta disappeared from the scene, at least their web presence. If I had it to do over again, I would opt for the Tascam DA6400 I think. But if I bought a redundant recorder, it would be another JoeCo just to keep things “the same”.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

Nope, I missed that. Sorry.

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

I could be wrong but isn’t the “pan pot” on the SQ simply a digital controller. It goes ’round and ’round, right? So a center detent?

D.

[tourtelotParticipant]

+1

D.

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