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Originally posted by Focus Studio

Hello everybody

I have two T112 and one 48 MixRack and one 32 MixRack and we are very pleased .. to have them…!![]

and a third how can i have near my racks on stage a AES3 (AES/EBU) digital output to feed my amps with digital sound ?the spdf output of the T112 have to be transfer from the foh to stage and convert to AES3 …

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Check this post as to the AES question.

https://www.ilive-digital.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1109

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Originally posted by teknik99

Hi All,

I am wondering if there is any way to get AES output signals from the T series.

Our speaker processor allows AES signals and if we could get a pair of outputs we could delte some A/D D/A convertors.

If i read the M-MIMO data correctly this does not seem to do this unless you also use an IDR 4 or similar

If there is another way to do this your input is appreciated

Regards

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Are you aware of the iDR D-out? That would connect an iDR outputs on the M-MMO and give you 8 AES outputs.(Or 16 AES by using both iDR D-outs and 2 iDR D-outs.) I think the only other ways would be to convert the spdif on the surface to AES. Or go from Ethersound or MADI to AES via converters and the appropriate card for slot B though that is going to get very expensive. The iDR D-out is less though still costly at around a grand.

P.S. Just thought about the ADAT outs. There are ADAT to AES converters available under and around the 500$ range but I have no idea how well those would work.

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Originally posted by kentlowt

The current hook up conundrum is: What if I want to run avioms or any of the available iem systems (on stage)and supply signal to our hd24 which can either be in the production room or FOH and then run a future (digital) feed to production where we could put a small idr with a few outputs and inputs since we sometimes need to feed signals into the sound system from there. I know the full ilive would be the proper solution but, it is cost prohibitive for us. So I am looking at which card for the B slot can give us the best options for obtaining our goals or getting us as close as we can get to them.

I also have considered using the pl series as an alternative to avioms but, there is so little I know about them I am not sure how well they would work.

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Kent,

Check out Antony’s post that sheds a bit more light on the current limits. https://www.ilive-digital.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1068 So somewhere down the road you may be able to feed a slave rack via Port A Ace. That could open the door to say an iDR16 in the production room with the M-MMO-A card. That would give you 24 adat, 16 channels of digital or analog via the 2 iDR port outs and the Aviom feed which could just head back to the stage via CAT5 an be distributed with Aviom hub/s. You’d also have the extra (analog) 16 in’s and 8 out’s of the rack itself.

I believe I also need to correct what I said about an iDR port and the Aviom port not being available in the RAB-2 card. When I looked closer it appears that this is when the RAB-2 is used in an iLive surface. So it sounds like it’s fully functional in the RAB-2 in the iDR0 or iDR10. So at this point I “think” you could feed the iDR0 off your stage rack with two audio cards of your choice and use the M-MMO-A in the B slot and do what I mentioned above. That’s still gonna be 8000$ to 9000$ (with ACE cards) to do that. And of course using a computer to connect with the iDR in the production room and no local inputs available on the iDR0.

Again just an idea. Maybe too much money especially if this is for a Church. I know how that goes! []

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Originally posted by kentlowt

of course put another ilive t in the broadcast room…in time we need to get our first one for FOH first Madi does look like the way to go though. Getting excited we will soon be demoing it. If everyone likes it then one will be ordered and I need to make sure I have all the right option cards and things for it.

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Something that occurred to me when I was doing some skimming is that you might be able to use an iDR0 though I have read of some limitations in this. With the newer RAB-2 card you can use one module in the card to connect (ACE, Ether or Madi) to a main rack and use the M-MMO in the second slot. From what I read you get the use of the ADAT feeds and one of the iDr ports but not the second iDr port and the Aviom. I don’t know if this is a current software limitation or a hardware limitation. That would give you the adat outs plus the capability of 8 more digital outs via an iDR Dout. Should even be able to run the iDR0 via the editor if you wanted. I think the iDR Dout is around a grand but have no idea on the iD0 as to price. Maybe someone can chip in about this.

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Originally posted by grahamwhite

At some point A&H had to make the conscious decision to leave features off of the Tseries, at the end of the day they still have to sell the modular iLive racks and surfaces right?
No point putting every feature on the cheaper systems and then shooting yourself in the foot trying to sell the big uns!

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Very true Graham. I’m not complaining, just wondered if I missed something. I did overlook the possibility of using the spdif and converting to AES (mentioned by selfmade) although this would be a little klutzy to do from FOH. The M-MMO card does give quite a few options to the T. You could record with the adat, have an Aviom system in use and still get 8 AES outs by using an iDr D-out. And the iDr bus uses CAT5 so that makes it easy to do. The only downside I can come up with might be some latency in going to the iDr bus and then back to AES at the iDr D-out.

Thanks!
Scott

P.S. Found some latency info…https://www.idrseries.com/DL/Training/iDR_latency.pdf

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