[smorgan223Participant]

I’ve been pouring over the block diagram for the GLD, and I don’t see any provision for sending a channel (via assignment) directly to a matrix. The only way I can see it’s possible is through inserting it in the matrix or patching it in through the external input. Also, I see that you have the Main set to “None”, which is typically reserved for using the console to run monitors. Are you able to pan your channels without there being an LR buss in place? Where are your FX returning to, and how are you routing them to the PA and Overflow Matrices?

Thanks for giving me your email, but I don’t have any way of looking at the show file until an editor is created. I don’t actually have a console yet, and it will be some time before that materializes. Also, please don’t think I am trying to tear your setup apart, I’m trying to learn right along with you about the different ways to set this console up.[] I know that workflows tend to be different from one audio guy to the next depending on their needs.

Thanks,
Scott

[smorgan223Participant]

I’m glad that the setup looks like it will do the trick! I was glad to help out. Now, regarding your question about the Room Mic. First, you can’t assign an input channel directly to a Matrix, to my knowledge, without assigning it to a Sub-Group first. This is a function that is available on some of the higher end consoles, but I know iLive will not even accomodate sending an input directly to a Matrix. Second, it is possible to assign a DCA to a Sub-Group/FX Send/FX Return instead of assigning it directly to the input channel. You have 16 DCAs, so the possibilities are endless.

I would like to help you as much as I can with your setup remembering I have limited knowledge about the console; this will be a great opportunity for knowledge sharing. Would it be possible for you to post your setup (i.e. what groups, matricies, FX sends, AUX sends, etc. you have) so I can see how you are routing things. You don’t have to post your input list unless you just want to.

I know that there is not an editor for the GLD-80 specifically, but you can use the iLive Editor to your advantage when it comes to trying different setups. It’s close enough to the GLD setup. You just have to remember you only have 30 mix busses and 20 mix outputs when you do your console setup in the editor. The iLive has a few more mix busses and mix outputs than the GLD.

Scott

[smorgan223Participant]

Chris,

Glad to do it! Let me know if it works for you.

Thanks,
Scott Morgan

[smorgan223Participant]

Ok, I spent a little time looking at your situation. While I don’t actually have a GLD-80 Console (we are looking to get one), I have played with the iLive software enough to understand how it divides out the busses and mix outputs. With that said, you have enough mixes and busses to do what you are planning to do with some modification. Here is what I recommend to you.

First, the LR Main is basically a Stereo Group, so I would just leave it labled as LR. You can lable it BAND if you desire, but I think that would be more confusing than helpful. Here is how I would layout your buss structure (NOTE: This is simply my outside look at your situation). I have also included a Buss/Mix Out countdown so you can see how many you have at each stage.

LR (or BAND if you prefer) 28 Busses & 18 Mix Outputs

ST SUB GROUPS:
DRUMS 26 Busses & 16 Mix Outputs
INSTRUMENTS 24 Busses & 14 Mix Outputs
BGVOX 22 Busses & 12 Mix Outputs

ST MATRICES:
FOHPA 22 Busses & 10 Mix Outputs
OVERFLOW 22 Busses & 8 Mix Outputs

MONO AUXES:
WDG1 21 Busses & 7 Mix Outputs
WDG2 20 Busses & 6 Mix Outputs
WDG3 19 Busses & 5 Mix Outputs
WDG4 18 Busses & 4 Mix Outputs
SUBS 17 Busses & 3 Mix Outputs
AUX6 16 Busses & 2 Mix Outputs

ST FX: (Only if you want to use it this way. Mono works too, but you will be left with an unused FX Send)
FX1 14 Busses & 2 Mix Outputs
FX2 12 Busses & 2 Mix Outputs
FX3 10 Busses & 2 Mix Outputs

DCAs:
1. DRUMS (Assign DRUMS Sub Group)
2. INSTRUMENTS (Assign INSTRUMENTS Sub Group)
3. BAND ALL (Assign DRUMS and INSTRUMENTS Sub Groups)
4. LDVOX (Assign LDVOX Channel)
5. BGVS (Assign BGVOX Sub Group)
6. SPEECH (Assign Pastor/Speech Channel(s))
7. MEDIA (Assign Media Channel(s))
8. LR/SUB (Assign FOHPA Matrix Master and SUB Aux Master. This will allow you to have one-fader control on the main and subs together).

As far as inserting FX on a Sub Group, iLive allows you to do it. So, I can only assume GLD will as well since they are basically built on the same platform. Don’t quote me on that. You will need to play around in the console to see if it’s possible.

Hope this helps! Anyone reading this…If you see where I have made a mistake, please let me know. Like I said, I do not own a GLD-80, but we are looking to get one for our youth worship room soon. The only time I have looked at the surface in person was at WFX this year.

Thanks,
Scott Morgan

[smorgan223Participant]

Allow me to offer a different perspective on this. You could set the gains for the pre-amps as hot as possible to keep the analog pre-amp warm so you are getting the most out of it. Then you would set the desk to use the trim in order to set your faders at unity gain. In the analog world, the gain and trim knobs are pretty much the same thing depending on the console you have, but digital has allowed the ability to run the pre-amps hot, and dial back with digital trim.

Just a thought on the subject.

Thanks,
Scott Morgan

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