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2016/10/04 at 2:14 am #58525
Yes, two mikes is the case here.
I sent a feature request.—
Andreas wrote: “Not sure where DCA control actually happens, probably right at the bus summing point and not before post fader recording tap.”
I found another issue, probably related (“where things happen”):
Input channels 5-6.
Ch 5-6 to LR: button “Off”, fader 0 dB (don’t want direct LR feed).
Ch 5-6 to Group 3-4: hard pan L<>R, button “On”, fader 0 dB.
Group 3-4 to LR: pan center, button “On”, fader 0 dB.
Setup I/O Patch: channel 5 = Grp3 L, channel 6 = Grp4 R.This works well for volume: The group channel fader sets the level for LR output as well as for USB channels 5-6 while multichannel recording. Simultaneously.
But pan is funny:
With selected Group 3-4 and current mix LR, pan works for LR, not for recording. When I press the routing button and move “Output Balance” of group 3-4, the function is reversed. Pan works for recording but not for LR. This means, I don’t have a pan actuator that works for both, recording + LR output.I am still a beginner with the Qu-PAC, not 100% sure if I did everything right. But for post recording + LR the pan does not seem to work as intended.
(Btw, I don’t actually record at the moment. I receive the USB multichannel stream in Logic to see what I get. But I think USB Drive recording is just the same process with another target.)
2016/10/03 at 10:16 pm #58516I found the issue (red circle in drawing below).
Finally I think to understand the function of the “On/Off” buttons beside the channel faders 🙂 After switching them off for “Channel 3-4 ==> LR”, I get no unwanted LR feed anymore and the levels for dry LR and USB are equal.
Quite logical, this way the group for the dry signal of the performance is handled like the mixes for the hardware: Control at the group/mix input for single channel specials, control at the group/mix output for standard action.
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Nevertheless, I am still interested if channel fader linking without PEQ is possible. Would be a simple way to control the hardware returns.
2016/10/03 at 8:27 pm #58514Andreas wrote: “I guess you need to spend a group (or Mix) for this to work.”
I already have a group to get the USB signal out as I need it. But still have to control both 3-4 channel faders to this group. Otherwise, depending on the routing, I get either a static recording and changing LR feed, or a changing recording and a static LR feed. Both must be the same because I want to record what the audience hears.Andreas wrote: “Fader-only linking seems only be possible with Mute-linking as well.”
Mute-linking would be ok, but the link button in the left “Channel” box acts as a master. I cannot link Fader/Mute without linking PEQ. The PEQ is different in those two channels, must not get linked.—
If we cannot solve this problem in an easy way, I have other options. With a little effort my foot controller can control 2 channel faders at once. I just try to simplify things as much as possible.
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Andreas wrote: “Interesting observation. I never recorded multitrack post fader.”
I use the Qu-PAC as an effects rack with hardware, controlled by a MIDI foot controller and with multichannel recording. Output on stage is stereo only (at least for now).I think my general setup is ok, isn’t it?
2016/10/03 at 4:54 pm #58511@ Andreas
Yes, I meant DCA.
I am recording multichannel and in this case channels 3-4.
If I control input channel faders 3-4 by a DCA group, the level of recorded channels 3-4 does not change with the DCA fader. With direct control of the channel faders it does.@ MarkPAman
I am on a Qu-PAC. How can I link only the faders of channels 3-4?
The linking panel on the processing page does not allow this.2016/09/26 at 4:01 pm #58403Ha!
I was pretty sure that I’ve done exactly what you describe and according to the manual. But obviously I did not, because it works now. Problem solved.Thank you very much.
2016/09/26 at 2:22 pm #58400Sorry for confusion. I am slowly getting familiar with digital mixers and the terminology. I’ll try to explain in other words:
I play an acoustic instrument with pickups on stage. I want the Qu-PAC to EQ and compress (limit) the input signal, send the result out to LR and record it via USB. Additionally, I send this EQ/Comp signal out to hardware effects, back to Qu inputs, send it to LR and record it. There are multiple inputs and multiple hardware boxes and the recording is multichannel.
Here is a simplified drawing of the setup with just the recording path:
Problem at the moment:
The recording of the pickup signal is not post EQ/Comp, it’s just the dry input signal.2016/09/26 at 2:00 am #58385I forgot to mention: The pre processing recording of input channels happens with USB streaming. Haven’t tested with USB drive yet. For live recording I will use USB Drive.
2016/09/24 at 10:32 pm #58370SOLVED!
I can control the Qu-PAC without a computer 🙂
Inspected the fader NRPN messages coming from the Qu and fortunately there is no high resolution necessary. CC99 and CC98 determine the target, CC06 is the continuous value and CC38 is always 7. Means, for a fader I have to send 3 static events and only 1 variable. My Gordius controller can do this.
… and the missing hardware link: Kenton MIDI USB Hub
It works with the Qu-PAC Firmware 1.9 – in one direction only, but fortunately to the Qu, which is all I need.Simple setup:
For people who want to receive Qu messages via the Kenton hub:
This might be a problem, mine shows no MIDI out.2016/09/24 at 4:22 pm #58366I am on a Mac and the controller is a Gordius. NRPN would not be a problem via the Mac, but I want to use the Qu also without the computer as I did before, with a controllable rackmixer.
Question 1:
My intention was to use the “Kenton MIDI USB Host” to feed the Qu-PAC directly from the controller. Could that work, basically?Question 2:
I made a MIDI strip on the Qu (custom layer) and from the Mac I can send CC#0 on channel 1 to move the fader. Fine, at least a reaction. But I don’t know how to control an input, mix send or pan this way. Is it possible? -
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