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2013/08/15 at 9:27 pm #34643
millst, I assume you set up VLANs in the switches? Can you have a 100mbps VLAN running next to the gigabit VLAN on the same switch? (100mbps for ACE and Gigabit for Dante)
IDR48 – T112 – Dante card
2013/08/06 at 6:58 pm #34579quote:
Originally posted by vilddyrSo to understand you correctly Pealsound, you have 4 media converters on each end, which then takes up one single mode fibre each on you quad fibre cable?
Correct. In fact I have 3 sets of ethernet media converters and one composite video converter for my camera/tv monitor
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Shouldn’t this all also be possible, with just a managed standard copper switch in each end? There should be plenty of bandwidth for 2 seperate ACE connections (one for surface, one for XDR link) right? As long as the ACE connection doesn’t see the others, and can be set to 100mb connection?Yes in theory, but you should test the whole setup (it if you can) before you purchase.
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2013/08/06 at 3:51 pm #34575Have you got ACE on 100mbps? I don’t think it likes a Gigabit network.
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2013/08/05 at 8:06 pm #34566I believe Mr B uses the “network” sockets to connect up. I use ACE with fibre to connect an IDR48 with my T112. I mention this because I had problems with ACE over fibre. It turns out ACE uses 99.5% of the bandwidth on 100mbps switch and not all switches can handle total max load. I had a very expensive learning curve before settling on this:
https://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=MC111CS
It uses single mode fibre (not multimode fibre) and sends and receives all data on a single fibre (the multimode version requires one fibre for send and another fibre for return)
See also the document “understanding ACE over optical fibre” on the A&H site
https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/Products/Pages/CategoryDocument.aspx?CatId=iLiveSeries&SID=29I use a gigabit switch for Dante (on a separate fibre) and I run a video feed down another fibre. (I have 150 metres of quad core fibre – 4 discreet lines in one cable the size of a microphone cable)
Check out my site for more about what I’m doing and why.
https://www.pealsound.co.uk/IDR48 – T112 – Dante card
2013/03/02 at 11:59 pm #33284Hi Jeff
What sort of audio activity was going on while you recorded these peaks?
Busy with audio or silent?
Cheers
JerryIDR48 – T112 – Dante card
2013/02/23 at 1:59 am #33202Hi Jeff
What sort of problems are you having? I run ACE over a fibre optic link which works fine once it’s made the connection. I use Yellobrik OBD 1510 E which is a 4 port switch with 2 ports at either end of a 150m fibre link. I say “once it’s made the connection” because the big issue is failing to connect (T112 surface to IDR48 rack). I’ve had big problems getting it to actually make the connection… I often have the surface fail to connect to the mix rack or sometimes I get a “connected”, but with dodgy audio at the surface – clicks etc. Reseting network addresses sometimes sorts it out and once it connects ok, it works perfectly. I’m talking with my dealer and A&H to try to work out what’s going on, but I’d be very interested to hear what sort of problems you are experiencing.
One interesting fact is that it always (100% never fails) connects over the Network link. Sadly, I need surface audio so I have to use ACE.
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2012/12/30 at 3:04 pm #32553No. Never got resolved on my old mac (OS 10.5). Ended up using a brand new mac with the latest OS. Audinate gave me a free key for DVS on the new machine because their spec stated it should have worked with my original setup.
Now it all runs perfectly. Occasionally the controller software fails to make all the routes between Brooklyn and mac (I use 32 in, 32 out) but I always check and manually correct if necessary.
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2012/11/18 at 9:12 pm #32132Have you tried using the Network ports as the link between surface and rack as opposed to ACE?
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2012/11/12 at 3:19 pm #32026Thanks papromike
I don’t need to use Vlans as I have a dedicated hardware switch for ACE.
The Yellobrik OBD1510-E is capable of running at 10, 100 or 1000 mBit/sec. When it is connected to an ACE port, the led indicators show that it has auto selected a speed of 100mBit/sec.
Assuming you use a gigabit switch, can I ask, does your ACE circuit auto sense 100mBit/sec or is at forced speed setting. There is a suggestion that ACE may be having problems negotiating line speed, but I don’t know how to verify this.
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2012/11/10 at 1:38 pm #31997Sorry, I should clarify.
I have started using fibre, but am having problems with ACE.
Dante, iLive network and all other CAT5 traffic works absolutely perfectly over 150m of single mode fibre with Yellobrik OBD1510-E switches at each end.
ACE has it’s own dedicated switch and fibre line, so there’s no other network traffic to interfere, but the system will not always boot. Unfortunately, this is an intermittent fault so it’s hard to pin down exactly whats going on. I need to use ACE as I require audio I/O at the surface.
A&H tech support are investigating, but I’m trying to find somebody who has successfully used ACE over fibre.
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2012/11/10 at 12:25 pm #31994Mr B
Can I just clarify, you are using iLive Network to connect surface to rack and not ACE?
J
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2012/10/22 at 11:45 am #31764I’ve just found this tread. I had massive crashing problems caused by midi data arriving in a burst at the midi input port on the T112 surface. The solution was to roll back to firmware 1.81 and the problem no longer happened.
I’ve now just had a crash recalling a scene….
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2012/08/27 at 11:22 pm #31231Sounds like your gate is switched in….
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2012/08/26 at 4:16 pm #31222steffenromeiss and ddff_lv both point out that the limiters are for “protection”. I’m trying to “protect” my recording from digital clipping or “overs”.
I successfully produce workable balanced recordings using the dynamics sections on input channels and groups and the main output compressor. The occasional audience member clapping extra loud will not cause a PPM meter to go above 6 (maximum) but may reach 0dB on the digital scale which gives a little red light on all digital meters. Whilst that in itself is not a major problem, it would be nice to be able to control these peaks.
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2012/08/26 at 12:58 pm #31220Hmmmm – still doesn’t explain the PAFL monitor problem. It would be nice if there was an option to over-ride this. I think I’ll have to make a suggestion to A&H.
Cheers all
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