[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Have a look at this KB article:

https://allen-heath.helpserve.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/353/0/dante–can-i-use-a-wireless-router-that-has-an-inbuilt-gigabit-switch

Also you need to ensure that audio packets do not saturate the wireless network: avoid Dante Multicast streams or set up MAC Id / ACL filtering.

Bear in mind that for a standard FoH/Mon split + recording computer you can run the M-Dante card in switched mode, thus no need for an external switch.

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It would be nice to avoid having to buy a separate gigabit switch for Dante, if the Asus would do.

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You can find Gigabit switches for as little as 15 pounds. A cheap TP-Link TL-SG1008 managed 8 Dante systems 8 hours a day on our stand at ProLight&Sound this year.

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

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Originally posted by Kingrazor

What’s the difference other than that the modular surfaces have the port B and allow the installation of various audio network cards?

And don’t the mixracks allow that? Meaning you could use a T112 with a mixrack and be able to have dante, madi or other connectivity by buying the cards?

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Hi Kingrazor,

This has been discussed before, please see this forum thread:
https://iliveforum.allen-heath.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2038

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

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Originally posted by mark@foothillsbaptist.org

At the FOH position, we will have a T112 Surface connected to a iDR-64 through the built in ACE. In port B will be a Dante card that will go to a gigabit switch that will be connect to a computer with a Virtual Dante for recording.

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All good so far.

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An iDR-0, with a Dante card in port A and an ACE card in port B, will be on stage and connected to the gigabit switch.

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The problem here is that the iDR0 cannot sync from Port A, also patching to / from Port A is limited in the number of channels due to the fact it is typically used for the MixRack to Surface link.

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My alternative would be have an ACE card in port b of iDR-64 connected to an iDR-16 with the MMO in its port B, and not have the recording.

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This presents the same issue as above. A few ideas:

– Fit an ACE card in Port B of the iDR-64, as you say, then connect two xDR-16s, one with Dante (for recording), one with MMO (for Aviom output).
– Keep Dante in Port B and go ME-U and ME-1 instead of Aviom, as dburris mentioned. You get a superior system with up to 40 sources to mix for each musician.
– Use a modular iLive-112 with ACE in Port A (connected to the iDR-64) and MMO in Port B (for Aviom output).

I hope this helps

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

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Originally posted by msmelser

Bump. Just curious if anyone has heard anything new on this.

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New Dante firmware is now available:
https://iliveforum.allen-heath.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2628

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi David,

The RAB-2 module is sold separately, but please check with our local distributor: https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/Company/Pages/Distributors.aspx

RAB-2 comes as standard on iDR10/iDR0 only.

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

A Matrix cannot be routed to LR. However a Group can. Assign USB 1/2 to a Stereo Group Ext In. Then the Group fader will control playback level to LR.

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi eotsskleet,

You can reassign the USB playback to any pair of Input channels. Pick any two mono channels, navigate to their preamp screen, and choose USB 1 and USB 2 respectively as the source.

If you are using all the 48 Input channels, you can assign the USB playback to the External Input of the master LR or a Matrix, as you say. Open the Ext In screen and set USB 1/2 as the source. You’ll find a digital trim in the same screen.

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi Millst,

In addition to the above, there are a couple of workarounds while waiting for the ME-U:

– If you are using a modular iDR10 / iDR0, you can plug ME-1 into Link 2 on the ACE card in Port A. We have a diagram on the ME-1 page showing this. Note that this setup is limited to 28 channels to connected ME-1s.

– If you happen to have an xDR-16 expander, you can fit ACE into Port B of your MixRack, and fit Dante into Port B of the expander. This way Link 2 on the ACE card can send up to 40 channels to connected ME-1s. However, note that Dante will have limited functionality in the expander (64 out 48 in max in V1.9).

Hope this helps

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi jmibk,

Have you installed the latest version of the DVS?
V3.2.0 release notes say:

On Windows 7 64-bit machines, when starting up, DVS could display
the error ‘Audio routing system failed (1024)’, and would not appear
as a device in Dante Controller, plus the DVS control panel would not
function correctly. This has been fixed.

Note that in this new version Bonjour has been replaced by an Audinate service, Dante Discovery.

Also make sure you are not using the Intel 82579V Network Interface Controller, as there are known issues.

Keep reporting your issues to Audinate Tech Support as they are best placed to advise you.

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi questsoundpro,

Both ACE and Dante are reliable and suitable for your application.

Dante is preferable for interconnection with third party devices and audio networking, and as Jonny pointed out, it allows direct recording into a computer via Cat5.

ACE is a more cost-effective solution for simple FoH/Monitor split, and easier to setup as it doesn’t require a computer software.

I hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

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Originally posted by tk2k

Can someone at A&H provide me with a higher quality version of this diagram?

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Hi tk2k,

See here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u8s3omikx7vzu5k/11SJHyKSg0

The webinar diagram was an example application of the new sync options in V1.9 (sync from xDR Port . The other diagram shows a typical, basic Dante installation.

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Constant-Q is 1/3 octave constant width with symmetrical cut/boost, ‘american’ classic if you like.

Proportional-Q is based on accurate modelling of gain / Q relationship and band interaction in a British, industry standard GEQ. You get wide Q for gentle cut/boost, which progressively tightens beyond 1/3rd octave for higher cut/boost. Higher band interaction typically results in a smoother sum of adjacent bands when compared to Constant-Q (some describe it as warmer).

Hybrid is an asymmetrical model which gives you the best of both worlds: boost is proportional-Q, cut is clinical 1/3 octave.

Digi-Q offers minimal band interaction to provide a frequency response as close to the slider position as possible.

Most people use Constant for feedback control in monitor world, and Proportional for tone-shaping, but the choice of GEQ models depends on personal preferences rather than applications. Listen to each model and pick your favourite

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi

Unfortunately you cannot use a Waves card in the ME-U as Waves SoundGrid does not transport clock data at present. Me-U can take Dante, EtherSound, MADI, and of course ACE/dSNAKE & Aviom.

As you say, you can fit an ACE card in the iDR and a Waves card in an xDR-16 (which would be limited to 48in 64out). Then use Link 2 on the ACE card to connect ME-1.

Hope this helps,

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

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Originally posted by woutert

If this were true, fixed MixRack users that already have Dante installed in port 2, could also benefit from ME1 without a major investment in an extra Dante option card + ME-U.

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Fixed format iLive does not allow to route any audio to the integrated ACE port (except surface local I/O, PFL and TB). You can use ME-1 on Port A ACE of modular iLive though.

Nicola
A&H

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

Hi Wouter,

I will be there – booth C-3128.
Come and meet ME-1

See you there,

Nicola
A&H

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