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I tried to do this last summer with a Microtik CRS328 but the 1.8 firmware wasn’t out yet so the dLive wasn’t playing nice with VLANs and trunks.
I’m keen to revisit.

Did you actually manage to get the DX protocol working through the switch? I battled with this for days but kept getting glitches.

Now they have removed the vlan tagging from gigAce, do I just connect the surface and rack onto the same VLAN with nothing else on it or do I connect it to a trunk port and somehow configure the VLAN of the rack and surface?

Florian, are you able to share your Microtik config, I’m interested to compare it with mine to see if you found more stuff to turn off than me.,

I also found that when I carried DX traffic, it resulted in a crazy high CPU load on the switch. I raised a ticket with Microtik but I never got to the bottom of it. How does your CPU load look?
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=145167

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I’m still battling this. I’ve resorted to fibre media converters over another pair in the fibre.

I have it all working but the CPU in the switches is running at 100% and dropping packets.

It appears the expander traffic is leaking into the cpu and overloading it so I just have to figure out how to stop this happening.

I won’t give up till I get it working.

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Ok thanks. Looks like it must just be later 3 settings on the vlans. I’ll have a play. Thanks for the link.

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If the app is not going to be updated.
Would you consider releasing the source code as open source so that someone else might be able to pick it up and port it.

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Dear A&H

Now you have showed the dLive software at PLS, can you please please please release it (even if its just tagged as beta or alpha) to this community.

I’m dying here without it out in the field!!

I have two events this weekend that require headless mixers and without software, I’m going to have to rip out the dLives from our production racks and put back in the old iLives just so I can adjust the volume. This is a real pain!!!

Its really frustrating to have spent so much money on the dLives and not be able to use them for all our gigs (we do a huge range of stuff from concerts one week to public address the next).

I’m quite happy if it crashes or is buggy or barely works, I just really need something, anything so I can actually use these mixers for all the gigs we do.

Cheers
Toby

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Thanks Andrew, I’ll check that out.

@michael, its not for everyone.
In my situation I am often the only person doing many different tasks.
So if I am mixing video and audio at the same time, I don’t have enough fingers.
If I pressed go, started counting down, then I can forget about audio and move to the vision mixer to complete the cue.

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I used to slam the iLive preamps pretty hard, I treated +6dB as zero on inputs and +9dB as zero on outputs.
The iLive had so much headroom it was more like an analog desk, I read that it had something like 18dB of headroom above the point where you hit the top red light.

The dLive has an absolute truckload more headroom, so to saturate it is actually going to be quite a challenge. The iLive had 56 bit accumulators which was industry leading and at the time stupidly over the top. The dLive has 96bit internal bit depth, that’s the depth of the sample not the sampling rate which is also 96khz. Its hard to really get a grip on how epic this is, its a new level of noise floor that is difficult to comprehend.

It kind of makes slamming the preamps pointless, the noise floor is so stupidly low and the internal headroom so high, its kind of pointless.

Its almost getting to the point where you could plug an input into 240v mains and it wouldn’t clip 🙂

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thank you so much nicola, this does help, very useful and all the answers I wanted to hear.
would be great to see the DX32 expanders and options soon.

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ohhh, one more question, are there one or two SBC’s in the dual screen version?
and if the surface has VGA ouput and supports another touch screen, does the second screen mirror the onboard screen or can you extend onto another external screen?

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Thanks all, I have rocked it with Groups and it worked great. Thanks for the fast response.

@george on the iLive the physical inputs and outputs and channels can be independent of each other.
That means you can soft patch any physical or even virtual input / output onto any channel (or bus as it turns out).
The reason why you could have left overs if that if you were say using 10 channels with a dante signal, then the physical inputs for those channels would be unused. On most desks this would mean you couldn’t use them for anything but on the iLive you could plug something into those unused inputs and route them wherever you want.

Its the ultimate in flexibility which is why I knew there would be a solution or workaround to my problem that didn’t involve wasting physical inputs / outputs or channels.

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Yes. exactly, that is what I am doing.
Sending the effects send on a mono Aux out set to post fade and routed out a physical output.
That part is easy.

What I can’t figure out is where to set the source of the effects returns so they use a physical input instead of an internal effect.
I have been fiddling with the patch bay on the ‘back panel’ of the effects processors, but am not sure if I should use the Mix -> Return setting or the insert setting or if there is another way.

Toby

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I have plenty of spare inputs, some of the channels are copies of another input so I am not using all my physical inputs.
What I am short on is channels, I am using all 64.
Yes, the 8 stereo effects returns on the iLive do not consume any of your 64 channels they are in addition.

What I would like to do is assign the input of the returns to a physical input instead of the output of an onboard effect.

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on the surface.

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Hi

Yes, I have installed the new update.
Also updated iLives to 1.94 and flashed the MEU to the latest version.
Also made sure DANTE cards are up to date.

Here is what is happening.

I have 40 channels going to the MEU over Dante.
I am using manual names, sync to the iLive is turned off for names.
10 of the channels are linked as stereo channels.

I have 9 ME1’s connected to the MEU, all the ME1’s are exhibiting the same issue.

All the channels are assigned to 1 of 4 groups. Drums, Rhythm, Keys and Vocals.

With some of the channels on the ME1, if I pan a channel hard left then when it gets to the extreme pan left, it turns up to full volume in the right. If I pan slightly off the extreme in the left then it is fine, but anything panned hard left goes to full volume in the right output.

If I pan the channel hard right, the volume drops as it pans past halfway and until there is no volume at all when panned hard right. This makes it impossible to pan anything right.

This does not happen on all channels, one observation is that it appears to happen on the channels that are adjacent to a stereo linked channel.

Toby

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just like that, except for a PC not a tablet.

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