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  • #100938
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    Hmm, I am used to use computer which meets my requirements and which are compatible to my used environment. I don‘t switch operating systems and hardware until I can use them in my environment. That means for me that a new platform, like the M1 from Apple, will be on hold until I can use them. Nobody forces me to use all the new fancy gadgets made by Apple at the moment they release them. Apple is best known for removing previous introduces API without respect for all the third party vendors of hard- and software. So these vendors have to adopt their products, or in the worst case re develop them, so that they can be used with the new hip and fancy apple gadget.
    So, tell me, who should be blamed for that situation? For me only Apple is responsible when there is a dead end scenario for their products. It is not possible that the whole music industry will jump immediately after Apple says „jump now“. But I am ok with that. Maybe in five years I will reevaluate the situation with this new gadgets whether they are then usefull or not. It is always no good idea to be an early adopter at all.

    #100922
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    @donstar do you really have 48 inputs? Keep in mind that the SQ series can handle 48 individual input sockets at once, stereo inputs are counting as two. So, if you need now 48 input channels, the you will run into a problem quickly, no matter whether you use analog or digital stageboxes. Maybe you need a solution with more possible inputs like an Avantis or dLive. Even if I do not like the Soundcraft Si mixer at all, they can handle more input channels than the SQs.

    #100904
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    There is always one with other needs. But the story of an audio network protocol is not finished to be written. at the moment Dante is the more versatile protocol with more supported devices compared to AVB/Milan. You cannot only connect mixers with Dante cards to computers, there are also a lot of sources and sinks available out there which do support Dante, Wireless microphones, simple line to Dante and Dante to line converters, Sound reinforcement systems with Dante, Stageboxes, Audio Interfaces …. just to name some categories. With AVB/Milan there is currently only a very small amount of devices available and most of them are incompatible. You say that Motu-AVB is supported by current Macs. But what if I am using Windows and want to use such devices using the network? so what will help you with your Mac would be a No Go for me and my Windows Computer?
    I am running Dante on several Mixers from different Vendors and am using also several computer in that Dante network, for several reasons. I also own some Motu devices with AVB Support but had always only a reasonable success when I am using USB to connect my computer with that devices. I have to confess that my newest Mac is running on Catalina. Furthermore there are also a lot of limitation when you will run AVB on your network. You have to use one of only a view AVB enabled switches and even then it is not guaranteed that these switches can be used with AVB devies from different vendors.
    One big advantage of Dante is that some big players, like Yamaha, committed their support for Dante. Until there is a similar Vendor which fully bet on AVB/Milan I see no big chance for that protocol. Frankly spoken, A&H is not one of the big player on the relevant market to do such a risky step, I am afraid.

    #100886
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    Another option for me would be when you can tap on the output socket or input channel and then you can see the current assigned patch.

    #100884
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    You can find such confirmation message of “patch steals” for instance on Yamaha consoles. I would add it but make it configurable, similar to other confirmations like loading a scene and stuff like that.

    #100796
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    hmm, and I thought that we are discussing here a technical devices and in the particular case the form factors of that devices. How silly can I be? This forum is primary for discussions of internas of some churches. What a misinterpretation of the nature of this forum by myself.

    #100750
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    That is not so simple as on the X/M32 platform. There you have on each console two AES50 ports (compareable to the SLink port on the SQ). So it is possible to use stageboxes and a connection to a second mixer out of the box. On the SQ you have to give up any other extension card, like Waves or Dante, to add a second SLink port. And the M32C is more ore less a simple DSP extension with almost no physical IO, which makes it inexpensive compared to the smalles SQ model at the moment, not to mention the smaller physical footprint of the M32C.

    #100744
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    In the standard configuration, when you initialze the console, you will see 40 mono and four stereo channels. When you change on the mixer configuration these four stereo channels to mono, you will have at last 48 mono channels, to which you can assign input sockets. That is the maximum of input channels as advertized. So, each configured stereo channel will „occupy“ to mono channel slots.

    #100734
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    With the M32 you will get 16 mono mixbusses to use them as fx mixbusses, subgroups or aux mixes. Usually four of that mixbusses areassigned to effects, reverbs or delays, so, if you want mor than the remaining 12 mixbusses for aux mixes you have to reduce the amount of fx busses. And if you then, later, want to use stereo IEM you willhave a problem with the M32. But there is an option to use a second M32, like the M32C, to extend the aux mixes in a more or less inexpensive way. This is something you cannot do with the SQ series, unfortunately.
    Some words about waranty. In my opinion the waranty should help customers to be save when there are some issues during the manufacturing or with some components of the device. These issues usually occur during the first months of usage or at the end of the lifetime of the device several years after purchase. So, for me it is ok when there is a one year waranty available.

    #100718
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    I will now come back to the initial topic of this thread. I personally see a market for a rackmount, stagebox like version of the SQ. There are some devices of that kind available out there which meets the possible target price point (round about 2000 €) but all of them are running at 48kHz. But even with that limitation they can be a good replacement for many audio interfaces. Higher channel count, a good mixing engine for monitoring with nice effects, both for channel processing and bus FX, and a good user interface in the most cases. In the last week I tried to find an audio interface with at least 24 possible inputs and some outputs for monitoring with a DSP for direct monitoring. Until now I am very disappointed about the result. Very limitatd DSB engines, e.g MOTU or RME, complicated way to extend the input channel count, and most of the time you have to use 48 kHz then, the user interface is not as easy to use (worst example ever is MOTU CueFX, never had contact with a more worse UI). And you have to spend more money for that.
    So, for me it would be a real advantage to have the SQ as a Stagebox, either without any IO, like the Midas M32C, or with the IO of an SQ6, or the full load with the IO, 48 inputs and 24 outputs combined with two SLink ports and at least one extension card slot.
    And in addition to that, it would be great to have an eight or 16 fader controller, with a full channel strip encoder bank which also can be used as a MCU.

    I think that would become a great option for studio work and a nice solution also for live situations.

    #100696
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    1) If these two strips are the master strips for Aux1 and Aux 2 they are per se not connected to any output. they are just master channels. You can use the IO setup page to assign outputs for these aux mixes. It depends on the configuration of your aux mixbusses. for mono you have to assign one output, for stereo busses you have to assign two outputs minimum. but you can assign as much outputs as you like, depending on the amount of available outputs. so you can assign, for instance, Aux 1 to both, some local output sockets and some output sockets on your stagebox.
    2)yes

    3) when you select an aux master and go to the routing page, you can see on the top of the selected aux master a button with a gearwheel symbol. pressing that button shows you the options for that aux. Assign “All on” means all input channels will be assigned. And now Guess what “All off” means. the same for the pre fader setting. and you can choose the tap point for that aux mixbus. Set them to prefader if you want to adjust the channel levels for that aux mix individual from the levels of the main mix. If you want to make them more or less linked, you should use post fader. post fader is normally used to feed some FX busses to keep the mix of direct and FX signal for the indiviual channel constant.

    4) there is no Aux 13 & 14 available on the SQ series, since it only have 12 Aux mix busses. and there are no Aux output sockets. All Sockets, inputs or outputs and local, stageboxes, IO card and so on, can be assigned to all possible inputs or outputs. Again you have to examine the IO Page to define the output patch for your busses (Aux busses, Main bus, Matrix busses). In my configuration out 13&14 are conencted to my local studio monitors and assigned to the listen bus. But this is just an example. It is also possible to assign the Main bus or some Aux mix bus to that output sockets. So, if you do not need local outputs for the main mix you can also use the 14 XLR output sockets and the A&B Jack output sockets for feeding eight stereo IEM systems.

    So if you say board outputs 1-6 are connected to IEM do you mean 3 or 6 IEM mixes?

    #100642
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    Maybe you should describe us in detail your current setup. What components do you use and where are they located? And then you should also tell us where you want to place your analog mixer (which one?).

    #100633
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    Use analog splitters for all inputs. That would be the best solution because you have a complete independent processing incl. gain control for both,FOH and streaming.

    #100585
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    More PEQ bands would be great, at least on the outputs.

    #100584
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    cutting it down just to 6 mixes?

    As I wrote before you will always have the maximum of 12 aux mixes, either mono or stereo, but always 12 mixes. But then you cannot use subgroups because aux mixes and subgroups are sharing the 12 mixbusses. But nevertheless you need some stageboxes to extend the number of output sockets.

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