[Mfk0815Participant]

For me it would be a good step in the right direction if A&H will make the communication protocol and the data format of the stored data public. That would make it easier to add functionality to the products of A&H without the need of the manufacturer’s resources.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Also from my side a +1 for both

[Mfk0815Participant]

This issue should be fixed in version 1.5.2 according to the release notes. So, update the board to the newest firmware version.

[Mfk0815Participant]

You can use the Listen bus as a source for your control room monitors. These busses will have the same signal as the PAFL bus but the level ist controlled by the listen level. And you can either assign a soft encoder to the listen level or you change the mixer role so that the master fader will become the fader of the listen bus instead of the main LR bus.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Of course, same problems causes same discussions.

[Mfk0815Participant]

One way is add the new mic on the next available channel, then change the layout on the layer to have the channels presented in the preferred order.

That is ok for a onetime change. What I am missing is a comfortable way to reorder channels, e.g move the newly added channels to the position where they would be when you create the channel setup from the scratch. Let us assume you start with a drum setup like Bass, Snare, Hihat, Floor Tom, Mid Tom, High Tom, Overhead Left and Right (channel 1-8 and input 1-8). Then,beginning from 9, there are Bass, E-Guitar, Acoustic, some Keys, brass, Vocals. 12 channels and we end at channel 20 and also input 20. Everything is fine. But then there is a new drummer in the band and a second bass, hihat and a third racktom is added. So we use additional channels and inputs for that three signals. Some additional changes later we will end in a degenerated input patch and channel list.
Then you want to use some DX168/X and you are planning to place one near the drumkit and one somewhere on the front side of the stage. But then you will have a confusing patch order.
One problem is that you can reorder the faders but not the channels which are shown in the original order of the input channels.
So Iwill vote for a move and/or copy method which handle not only the channel processing but also the input configuration, the color and name, the send levels to all busses, simply all aspects and parameter related to the channel.

This would be a huge, HUGE, improvement for every user. Stop discussions about obscure workarounds, lets do it the correct way.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Did a simple test. Used a signal generator and send the signal from one input channel to Aux6, post fader and MainLR. all send fader, the one for MainLR and the one for Aux6 are set to 0 dB. open the master fader for MainLR and Aux6 and the meters are showing the same level (as expected). Then I did a further test and assign Aux6 and Main LR to some output sockets and patch them back to some input sockets, set the gain of the two inputs to the same value. The result was the same level on both input channels. All this tests were done with Firmware 1.5.3.

By the way: “There is no other instrumentation available for measuring levels”. There is a Meters screen available. There you can see the levels of all mixbusses side by side.

[Mfk0815Participant]

It also would behelpful to do some mixing practice with good recorded signals. A place to get multitrack projects is https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/. With some of those projects you can 1) get an idea how instruments should sound and 2) you can experiment with the processing capabilities of the SQ.
The next step could be to record the band to compare your band sound with thatof the well recorded projects. One reason for that is that most of the sound is not caused by the mixer and the operator but the musicians, their instruments, the microphones, the placement of them and the soundsystem within the room.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Beside the amount of possible inputs of a mixer another benefit would be the number of possible sub mixes for monitoring. this can be relevant for recording more than one musician at the same time. And most audio interfaces have a poor support for creating a latency free monitor mix. there are mixing consoles in general better equipped.
For me all three mixing consoles will do the job, especially for a 17 years old beginner. The SQ works at 96 kHz while the others are working at 44.1 or 48 kHz sampling rate. but for the given use case this makes not that big difference, I guess. The WING comes with more, and over all better, effects and a better studio integration (DAW control and studio monitor section) than the others. but for the WING you need an extra stagebox like a S32 or Midas DL32.
I personally do not mix ‘in the box’ but use the mixing console for the mix down as well. I have Dante expansion cards for all my mixing consoles (the three ones which are mentioned here beside others) and this gives me the flexibility to add external plugins. But thats another story.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Another option I see is to use a dLive with a surface like the C3500 for FOH anD a computer running the Director software, maybe with one or two IP8 connected, for broadcast instead of a C1500.

[Mfk0815Participant]

+1000 from my side

[Mfk0815Participant]

select the matrix channel and the ‘Mix Ext in’ there you can find the delay parameters.

[Mfk0815Participant]

Great concept to improve products by simply ignore good ideas from others. Thats how it should be. Everything is fine as long as the sonic quality of the premium preamps is fine. Congratulations, yiepee.
😉

[Mfk0815Participant]

Is that really an unusual wish? Think about a stereo input and you want to use that input completely stereo, the width of rhe channel is set to maximum. But you want to use the same channel with less width on your stereo aux mix. At the moment you have to live with the main width, no matter what you want to do with your aux mix.
And BTW, the extra stereo input you suggested is no option for the OP.

I don’t currently have enough extra inputs/outputs to route the auxes back into stereo inputs, use the stereo width controls there, then route it to a 2nd set of outputs.

[Mfk0815Participant]

GigaAce can be used with layer 2 switches. And afaik it can tunnel TCP/IP and therefore Dante. So try it before add an extra cable.

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