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2017/01/22 at 1:37 pm #60801
Hi Andrea’s,
Yes we have removed the router, and any connected PC.
We also removed the USB drive that would be connected for recording sermons.
The desk just does this by itself.
It’s a little frustrating as you can imagine, as the faders are in use nearly all of the time and because we often run a very very full band – we can’t really offer other faders to the use of the piano.Trouble is – faders might be fine during a sound check, and look OK, but then in he middle of a song the piano will ramp up to full, and went so loud for a second or two that it caused our main Lab Gruppen amps to trip out and shut down the tops in the middle of a service.
Since then I have been in and set compression on our system controller to catch large spikes and squash them.
Nicola – what are your thoughts?
Jonny
2017/01/15 at 11:18 am #60576Here’s our firmware photos illustrating version 1.9
2017/01/15 at 11:01 am #60575More video for evaluation.
(This time in landscape).2017/01/15 at 10:33 am #60574Hey guys,
May I ask at all if you are any closer to getting a solution for this?
We are now having to skip out on using faders 13&14 (stereo linked).
I’ll try and attach two videos to show what was happening.
No router was connected whilst this was happening, so network interference is ruled out.
Apologies for the portrait aspect of the video.
It’s now doing this across 6 power cycles in the last two days apparently.
Any thoughts, any fader calibrations possible etc?
Thanks
Jonny2015/12/26 at 4:41 pm #52939Hey there,
Sadly it is quite a common occurrence.
I have three AR2412 now, and all of them have exhibited the same filling power supply, the oldest of which is two years old, and the youngest of which is only 4 months old.It’s happened on them all. Two were done under warranty and the first I paid about 60 to get a new switching power supply fitted.
Hope this helps,
Jonny2015/11/02 at 12:46 pm #51852I experienced this today myself – lasted only for about 2 seconds with only one open channel.
Sounded exactly like a vinyl recording scratchyness… great description.
2015/11/02 at 12:35 pm #51848Yep – we’re able to choose either recordings or playback when we tap on the little grey box to choose the audio source for playback.
2015/11/01 at 12:16 pm #51823I also have experienced, and again after an update to v1.8 have now indefinitely suffered complete loss of USB.
Anyone yet discovered a complete solution for total
USB loss.Thanks
JW2015/01/04 at 10:49 am #44284Unfortunately, I don’t think it logs anything to the error log file, as the problem seems irradicated once the unit is powered up.
Thanks again chaps!!
JW2015/01/04 at 10:47 am #44283Indeed chaps – thanks for your thoughts.
I stopped past our local (ahem about 60miles away blurrrrrghhhh) A&H repair shop, and they have had a very quick look at it – reckoning a failing power supply is to blame.
They are going to replace the power supply at the start of the week, and will let me know how they get on there.
I’d hate to think that the power supply would fail after about only 100 gigs since buying it – seems a bit premature to be honest.
I will let y’all know how I get on.
Many thanksJonny
2015/01/02 at 9:41 am #44237Hi chris,
Yes that kind of makes sense in a way too – definitely is an avenue worth ruling out.
Strangely – after it’s powered up and been running for a bit, I have discovered now that if I turn it off and turn it back on again after a minute or twos day…. it will stay back on again.
So weird – I will try and rule out the dodgy PSU.
For tonight though – I think one of the QU16 will be coming with me – with some analogue multicore to see me through just in case!
Thanks chris,
JW
Ps anyone with any more ideas a please still feel free to lend me your thoughts also.
Thanks
2015/01/01 at 3:16 pm #44225Rob Spence is indeed Correct – when compared against the alternatives – the integration of the somewhat costly Dante Card is significantly less expensive, more available and more capable than the alternative yamaha option – which still only allows 32 channels at 44.1kz.
A&H offer a higher channel count, less financial output on the desk, admittedly a higher card price (but you only have to buy 1), and a seamless integration into the system – offer a higher sampling rate without compromise to the number of channels that can be run, and above all… no faffing about routing this that and the other all over the place to just get signal to your DAW.
I have a dante cards for each of my two GLD80, and even as a smalltime audiovisual operator – they have paid themselves back ten times.
I do some recording work for some of the local Amateur dramatic societies, offering a live PA and mic’ing solution aswell as a seamless recording of each production.I have run all 48 tracks with no problems whatsoever straight into mac mini i7 16gb running Propellerheads reason 7.5 with a USB 3.0 drive, on many productions now and have never even had anything that might represent the slightest glitch.
Plus as well as all this I have the benefit of being able to interface with other manufacturers desks running Dante outputs, and nearly ever bigger gig I am at these days is showing more and more respect for the Dante Protocol – I was at a closed door meeting with Roland in October whilst at Plasa14 – they are even supporting Dante on the new 5000 series desk.
I honestly cannot see A&H developing a seperate budget line recorder for the purposes of recording up to 48 tracks – if you even think about the costings of the ICE16 – retail on it is about £850 for 16 tracks – in theory you’d be looking for 3 times 16 tracks that so over £2500 – so in retrospectful thought even adding one single A&H Dante card at a cost of anything from £800 to £1100 pounds does not seem that unrealistic a pricing, a basic GLD system costing around £6500 at the minute.
A&H Dante card (48 tracks per card) – £800-£1100
Yamaha MY16 AUD (16 tracks per card) – £550 each (£1650 for 48 tracks… but you are limited to 32)Its all down to circumstance and your budget, but when actually weighing up the options, pricing and realms of possibility… my own opinion is that A&H are well ahead of the curve on their relative pricing, functionality, and ease of use.
Thats just my thoughts
JWAttachments:
You must be logged in to view attached files.2015/01/01 at 1:31 pm #44224I should have said that everything is on version 1.4 firmware.
I have also had the problem when using the same AR2412 with one of the QU16’s aswell.The power light on the rear does not come on – the signal light on the fornt does not come on – only the fan activates on the rear.
It also exhibits this problem regardless of whether or not the CAT 5 is plugged in.
It may all be sorted when I put version 1.42 on later today – but for months and months version 1.4 never once gave me any problems – nothing has changed to prompt this vast reduction in performance.The Ar2412 is mounted in a shock-protected rack, its always handled with extreme care – it kinda has to be causes its in the same rack as two IPD2400 Lab amps so its a heavyish rack and its always packed into the van on its bottom and wedged in so it cannot possibly move.
This is doing my head in – I shouldn’t have to consider bringing a spare AR2412 with me to gigs – but this is heartbreaking right now LOL!
2014/01/03 at 9:40 pm #37075I have used both and by far and away the QU16 beats the Zed r16 hands down.
24/48 khz recording,
4 Aux outs mono plus 3 aux outs stereo (as opposed to 2 post and 2 pre)
Midi control of DAW faders via custom layer,
virtual sound checkinggenerally its a great board – and you have the option then if you do need to take it to the road – of being able to do so with much more ease and option.
JW
2014/01/02 at 11:48 pm #37067oh and for the “non compliant” non apple users LOL, there is a rip-off version for android that works just as well as Apples version.
the trade off – you have to pay just a few quid for it -
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