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2014/12/01 at 3:45 pm #43496
OK, I understand what you want… but not why you want it. Individual levels in individual mixes are not a tier one priority for me and I venture for most live sound mixers. I use the custom layers for things which need adjusting in the live mix. Anything for onstage individual mixes would be second tier and as such can be accessed fine as is.
Placing control of what should be a pre-fader send in with active post fader sends turns on a red light for me. Too easy to inadvertently change the mix ratio by accident. I am not one to spend a lot of time actively mixing monitors when mixing a show. If you are doing just monitors, then yes, your primary duty is to keep the levels adjusted for the players. But if doing both FOH and monitors I want the controls/tasks to be separate.
2014/12/01 at 2:50 pm #43493The Rolls also is a “more me” device. I have a no-name four channel device but prefer to use the individual units. Connecting headphones back to a single source is a pain as is having to go to a central point for the “more me” adjustment.
Either way, cabling is the bugaboo in analog solutions whereas systems such as the ME or something like Aviom using digital taps take the cabling load off…for a price.
2014/12/01 at 2:35 pm #43490OK. Are you looking to change the levels of individual inputs in ALL mixes? I don’t see any advantage to placing your sends on a custom layer rather than selecting a mix and using the regular sends-on-faders.
Either way you have to make a selection: custom layer or mix.
As it is now you can address the level of any individual channel to the various mixes by selecting the channel, going to the “routing” screen and using the rotary encoder to change send level.
If you’re ” stuck” working from an iPad, then perhaps you could use something on a custom layer, but I personally do not see any advantage to placing the function differently. There are problems attending using something other than the Mix tabs.
If you need a single voice raised in ALL mixes, I suggest merely raising the input trim on that channel.
Or perhaps I’m missing the particular use which you require. Right now I cannot imagine a case where your proposal would be a necessity.
2014/12/01 at 2:29 pm #43489If you want a hard-wired personal monitor mixer, Rolls make a device which might be useful:
2014/12/01 at 12:03 am #43482Ahem…apology accepted…jääräpäinen Suomalainen poika.
2014/11/28 at 6:25 pm #43436I do use mine for some theater and for live radio broadcast, but suspect that my work flow is not nearly as scene-dependent as those who must follow a script as I tend to have an average of 8-10 lavs/earsets in a production and can use mute groups and DCA’s for some tasks. I currently have vision in only one eye so I likewise rely on things working as expected/required without having to do visual checks. For now I’ll have someone else call cues.
Does this aberrant behavior extend all the way up to the iLive?
2014/11/28 at 12:02 am #43391OK, now that there’s more complete info on your procedure I’ll just ask…have you done a hard reset on the desk?
2014/11/27 at 10:30 pm #43386What wording?
The console is just doing what he tells it to do. Unfortunately, he’s not where he thinks he is and is editing/saving one scene when he thinks he’s editing/saving another.
Unless I’m grossly mistaken, you must recall a scene in order to edit it…not just highlight it. It appears that the OP is merely highlighting the scene he wishes to edit, not recalling it, then when he hits “save” it overwrites the current scene.
This is the only logical explanation I can think of to account for what he says is happening.
2014/11/27 at 9:04 pm #43382The problem is in your misconception. You really need to follow the manual on this. There is nothing wrong with your console. Don’t feel bad, just start all over again and follow the instructions in the manual carefully. Forget the LS-9.
For one thing, the scene indicated on the right side of the toolbar is the next or up-coming scene, not the currently selected scene. Your statement above “it then appears as the current scene on the right-hand side” is mistaken or stated in error.
You must recall a selected scene in order to tweak and save. If you’re getting an over-write notice and ending up with the same scene displayed on both the left/current and right/next positions it is because you THINK you’re working on one scenen but are actually working on another.
I think you should also review the soft key assignment functions:
Recall Scene – Instantly recalls the scene number assigned to the SoftKey.
Scene Store Current – Instantly stores the current mixer settings to the last recalled scene. This is shown in the ‘Curr:’ bar.
Scene Recall Go – Instantly recalls the Scene shown in the ‘Next:’ bar.
Scene Next – Advances to the next scene in the list.And don’t forget to check that auto-increment is enabled.
You just have to know exactly where you are when you’re working on something. It appears now that you think you’re in one place when you’re really in another.
2014/11/27 at 4:38 pm #43375I have not experienced the “problem” you cite. Reading through all your posts on various topics it seems you’re spending your time fighting with the board trying to get it to work your way rather than learning how the board works.
Patience, my friend. If you can post the exact set-up sequence you’re using, perhaps one of us can point out anything you’ve overlooked.
2014/11/26 at 1:33 pm #43349I have found it advisable if not absolutely necessary to incorporate a high-quality on-line UPS for supplying power to mission critical digital gear. And my suspicions are that connectivity and power up/dowm sequence may factor into some transient failures.
Re-booting to “fix” computer problems should be ubiquitous at this point, and our digital consoles and stage boxes are essentially computers. Power cycling is the first thing to try in such cases before jumping to any conclusions about the gear itself. Such occurrences are likely situational rather than otherwise.
I have learned a TON about AC power in doing sound and learn more all the time. There is so much more to know than merely establishing proper grounding and voltage. Any venue can have hidden issues in their circuitry which can and will affect any connected gear.
The only way I know to alleviate the down-side of this is a good on-line UPS outputting pure sine wave power such as a Tripplite. Just beware of the models with loud fans…
2014/11/26 at 8:54 am #43341Can one not just use the Qu-drive to record the mix-down and obviate the need to go back to the laptop?
2014/11/26 at 12:32 am #43330It is still not clear what you are trying to do.
Do you want to just do a live L/R stereo mix and record it
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Do you want to do a multi-track recording and re-mix it later
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Do you want to do both?
2014/11/25 at 8:19 pm #43325When running both live sound and sending program for recording/streaming, you need to be able to set your channel/recording levels at the optimum level and have control over your live sound output such that you can adjust it as needed for your sound system. I do as follows:
1. Set up your recording levels first.
2. Use the “Alt Out” connections to feed signal to your live sound system. You must go to your output assignments and choose the source for the Alt Out jacks (balanced TRS). I run my live sound in mono, so I choose “L + R” as my option. I can then use either one or both Alt Out jacks to feed live sound.
3. You can now run your board as needed for optimum record/stream level and control the level of the live sound feed with the Alt Out knob. This will in most cases mean that you run your Master fader for the proper record level and REDUCE the signal to the live system as needed via the Alt Out pot.
This is how I handle doing live sound, Shoutcast streaming and recording all at the same time.
Clear?2014/11/25 at 5:09 pm #43319You really need to communicate clearly and with a complete description of your objective. All I can sort out from all this is that you basically need a 2-track recording of the live L/R mains mix of a live music performance…with the possibility of a multi-track recording to be mixed later.
Make your stereo recording of the L/R output to a Sandisk Extreme USB stick by using the Qu-drive. Make your multi-track recording via the USB-b port to your computer.
The two can be run simultaneously.
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