[Chris93Participant]

Assign the group to the DCA?

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

The audio quality isn’t going to be different. It’s not even a matter of differences being too small to measure, it’s the same data. It’s analogous to emailing somebody a wav file or handing it to them on a USB drive. There are certainly logistical advantages to Dante such as access across multiple devices remotely located across a network, but if this doesn’t apply to their situation then it’s not actually better.

They’re already using the USB interface, are they having any issues that Dante will solve? There may be an improvement in latency by using Dante hardware on both ends, but you could also do an incremental upgrade by trying it with Dante Virtual Soundcard first.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

For what it’s worth, I’ve used 250 Ohm DT770s with both GLD and SQ with no issues. No idea of the headphone amps in those are the same as each other, or the same as Qu, but it would seem like a pretty re-usable bit of design work…

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

Using the manufacturers system controller very much is the proper way to do it.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

One option is to send the LR to a matrix and use that for your PA feed, then you don’t need to EQ the LR itself. I’ve done this before to get a recording of the LR without any PA/room specific EQ.

This will give you the LR mix in your ears, but I’d be careful about assuming this is the same as what the audience is actually hearing, particularly depending on how much is coming off the stage naturally.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

Is it recommended to change this now if it hasn’t gone bad yet? Is there a documented procedure?

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

@smiley
In the I/O page, under the monitor section. If you click on one of the output channels it will populate the section at the bottom of the screen where you can select the source of the audio. The default is “input direct out”, but you can open this menu and select something different.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

Can you set up a scene recall for each state, filtered to recall only the preamp for only that channel?

The downside is this will re-set any changes you may want to make to the preamp gain or 48V, and you’ll either need two buttons on your interface, or maybe just one that changes function once it sends the command.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

If this is for turning band channels up and down at the start and end of songs you can do it with a group, and adjust the level of that into the aux. If you want the mix within that group to be independent for the stream and LR you would need to use a duplicate set of channels which you’d unassign from the LR. DCAs will also work when assigned to these channels, so you could have a subgroup for the band, and have drums, instruments, vocals etc DCAs. These would be in addition to any DCAs being used for the channels feeding the LR mix.

If you want the mix to be different, but still to change along with the LR mix, you could use a post-fade aux to set whatever offsets you want from where those channels are in the LR. You can also do this with a pre-fade aux if you don’t want the effect of any LR fader moves. This saves you from having to duplicate a load of input channels, but there is no way to use DCAs with this method. If there’s only one group of levels you want to adjust together I’m not sure it necessarily needs a DCA, as you can do this with the master of the sub mix. If you want to build a mix on another aux and combine it with something else you can do that with a matrix.

Chris

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Thanks for the update. I didn’t realise this either, this will no doubt save some headscratching in the future.

I tend to use normal input channels for talkback, one channel per destination type, and assign their mutes to softkeys. Eg talk to FOH and talk to wedges. Of course that requires having enough free channels which was one of the issues you were trying to address in the first place. 🙂

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

That’s odd, it certainly seems like it should work. Does Ext in work on LR if you use another audio source?

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

If it’s expecting DHCP and isn’t getting any it will take much longer to boot, but it shouldn’t actually hang. I think it takes a couple of minutes in this case.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

You can do this with embedded recall. Use your unmuting scene as the “main” one that you’ll recall manually, then embed the muting scene with whatever delay you want.

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

What are you using the group outputs for?

Chris

[Chris93Participant]

If you patch the PAFL output to your monitors rather than using the LR you’ll essentially have solo in place, though it does miss the feature of including FX returns associated with that channel.

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