[cheu78Participant]

Totally agree with you Hugh!
My point was that Yamaha is exploring that smallformat market (even if they obviously are not comparable to the dLive from a quality point of view)..

A&H should take that opportunity and lead that market..
not limiting the console processing and quality, only because it’s portable.

🙂

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

I knew your needs.. 🙂
it might indeed be a market out there, probably the one yamaha is trying to cover, with their new (overpriced) small dm3 proposal..

a mini Avantis could be a great thing..

we’ll see what A&H does..

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

Hey Hugh,
I hear you..

Maybe the market is too small for something like that, and doesn’t appeal the rental part of it, where the C1500 or the sq5 are already covering.. to some extent..

Maybe this should be posted in the Avantis forums..
I’m going to see if I can deep dive more on an avantis..
despite my preference for physical knobs and buttons, the avantis looks like a clever implementation indeed.. very flexible, very powerful, and have mire than enough processing for anything you could throw at it (unless you have very high channel counts, more than 64, which I honestly don’t.

A&H have the dLive C1500 if you want a smaller form factor.. since several years..
but you’ll need a cdm32 (or a dm0 with a dx32)..

A mini Avantis will be a very nice thing imho..
I’d love to see 16 faders though.. with the last 4 blockable like the second screen of the Avantis.. and that might be difficult to see, looking at how the Avantis is built. But who knows, maybe there’s a way..

If I mix the same band on tour I can live with 12 faders, with some tricks..
but doing a festival with several band will not be very comfy..
for that you need a decent amount of faders.. (at least imho and for my workflow).

I’m currently debating if getting an Avantis btw..
it’s not as light and “compact” as I’d like.. but maybe it’s a compromise I have to accept..
also I’m not sure if it sounds the same on the sum as a dLive, looks like a very nice console though..
would like to know if the Avantis also has the nice compression charachteristics of the dLive (if desired).

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

would also probably add hw metering too (like dLive C class) and maybe a one 3.5 stereo input somewhere..

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

For what is worth I totally agree with Hugh on all aspects.
My suggestions for a mini Avantis with:
– 1 screen
– 16 faders (you can do 12, plus 4 on a separate bucket, kinda GLD)
– some more knobs and pushbuttons for regular controls like eq/comp, the basic stuff!
– 4 user rotaries like in the SQ6, these are really a great thing!
– only 8 I/O on the back of the console plus 1 AES I/O, are probably more than enough (or even 6 like on the dLive).
– lighter, less bulkier, can reduce the armrest a little bit too, it’s quite deep imho
– keep the 2 expansion slot

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

A&H should take a look at the products:
Loudmax (which is free vst plugin) is a really good quite clean limiter
Boost rev.B by UrsaDSP is another great one..

maybe they can get inspired.. 🙂

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

I’d suggest to test both and THEN decide which one is for you..I believe they have a different workflow.. they’ll both sound excellent (or most probably exactly the same)..
but tey do have a different (mostly HW, with the software integration, new screens) feature set.

The avantis will be cheaper IF you need a relatively high number of faders.

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

Thank you Nicola,
looks the Avantis ticks a lot of boxes for me..Nice job! I definitely need to test it out 🙂

regarding the stageboxes: true, there’s a lot of options.. would be great if the dx168 was a little bit more thought to be racked honestly (I know you can, but the pwr connector and cat connectors on the side are NOT a smart idea..very unpractical..put the on the back please..it would make so much sense, even in a standalone/non racked setting) and if there will be a DX84 might also be a good add. (you could use that DX012 frame) 😉

regarding the multitracking on USB: may I kindly ask to reconsidering it? it would be so practical also as a simple backup on top of the Dante or Waves option (you might limit the amount of tracks to 32 if that’s one of the issues you have with usb, like on the SQ)..

is the DCA spill option avalaible for the Avantis and/or the SQ?

Thank you!
howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

Hey Nicola! Nice one!
1.are the led lights integrated like in the SQ and dLive series?
2.are you planning a 96k 24-12 with dLive stagebox?
3.will you allow direct 96k multitracking recording on this one, please? (like on the SQ)

nice one with the AES I/0 and the faders number.. thumbs up!
i’m curious to test this “new” workflow too..

needs to test one asap.. 🙂
when will be avalaible?

Thank you!
howdy
Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

I don’t know..
I do believe it’s simply because they are “pushing” something else..
GLD is still on the website, although not being new and probably selling less than the new SQ/dLive stuff.

I’d love a GLD with the headroom, sound and capabilities of a dLive (even limited to 48channels).

it will fit right in the middle between an SQ with “fixed” bus structure and a dLive C class.

Also e payable upgrade to the ones owning the hw might be a cool route.. Being able to use the actual GLD surface.. But I don’t think this might be interesting for the brand.. They might go for a all new design or a “redesign”.

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

gLive it’s a cool idea..
Very similar hw of the actual gld (maybe with the knobs/pots and metering of the dLive) and being able to drive also the dLive stageboxes. Keep some nice 3 pots per band Eq and dedicated control for the compressors and the widget.

Just limit it to 44/48 physical channels but being able to use the same 96k engine/processing/preamps and converters of the dLive with a non-fix bus architecture (like the actual gld or the dlive in contrast to SQ or Qu).

A 20 or compact 24 faders version will fit most. I believe there’s no need for 2 different versions.
Keep it compact and light, like the actual gld is.
Great board for the price.

You want a cheaper option?
Go with SQ.

Need more channels and “better” hw? Go dLive C (or S class if you need redundancy, more I/O cards and swappable pwr supply).
Should be able to use any stagebox outthere like SQ does.

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

An insertable one on at least 16 or 24 instances (like they did for the dyna8) would be great.
A&H go and check the soundtoys decapitator.. Really a good, fast and easy to use plug.. Plus it sounds pretty cool.

Thanks!

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

Yep!!
+1

Since you’re at it do it for the qu-series (and gld) as well, please.

[cheu78Participant]

An good SSL emulation as well as a nice vari mu emulation would be great indeed.

I do love the opto on most sources, I have to admit it’s great!

howdy

Cheu

[cheu78Participant]

Yep! It would be great indeed..
Being able to insert it on some sources or groups AND on the masterbuss after that SSL comp 😉

I’d suggest to test out a great 2″ 16 track like the MCI’s.. Fat and round!
As well as the 1/4″ 2track.. Love the MCI JH110 WITHOUT xformers.. Ampex is also a great machine as well as the studer 820 (if you want a newer one).

howdy

Cheu

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