Virtual soundcheck requirement

[perageParticipant]

Hi,
We have just got an approval to replace our current Yamaha LS9-32 mixer with a dLive C3500 in our church. We’re not that many engineers and most of them are quite inexperienced. The VS function seems to be a genius one the get our team a lot better, so I’m just curious of what the requirements to use it is?

If we for example wanted to record a session with 32-48 channels and use that set to practice another day – what do we need? PC, soundcards and extension cards, or is it possible to do so with just a USB stick?

Thanks in advance

[RaySParticipant]

Hi, you can only record a stereo mix on usb……

For VS, you’d need a pc/mac/with some rec software like reaper/protools etc (or a JoeCo box) … with either a dante/madi/soundgrid interface and a madi /dante/soundgrid card on the dlive

RayS

[RSParticipant]

Where the Dante interface on the PC side is the easiest and cheapest, as far as I know. It’s just a software (Dante virtual soundcard) for 30 bucks. Interfaces for dLive is the “expensive” things. And they are all more or less the same prize…

[BradParticipant]

We run a similar setup at our church with the dante interface card. works a treat, and pretty easy for a bunch of volunteers to setup as well. we have protools for the VS; however we also record direct into garage band (no judgment please) for simple stuff. would do the job for a simple practise setup.

[perageParticipant]

Nice! We look like to find a cheap, but working solution as it will only be used for training engineers. We already have a Mac mini, so if Garage band works, it will suffice! Do you need both Dante card at dLive and data virtual interface on the Mac, or only one of them?

[RSParticipant]

Both is required. dLive card to get Dante out of the system and Dante virtual soundcard to get the audio stream into the computer. If you are looking into a recording app, I would recommend tracks live from Waves. It’s for free and gives you all you need…

[Mark OakleyParticipant]

I’m using Waves Tracks Live to record from my iLive and it’s working great. I decided to go with the A&H Waves card as it allows simultaneous recording and plug-ins.
-Mark

[devanbumsteadParticipant]

I’m looking to do this too but we’re hoping to record at 96kHz so we can’t use DVS. We have planned to use the Focusrite RedNet PCIeR card loaded in a Sonnet Echo Express SE1 to hook up to a iMac. We will have the 128×128 Dante card in our C3500 as well. The big question I still have is how “beefy” this computer needs to be to handle between 48-55 inputs at 96kHz? Recording into Logic. Anyone have experience here?

[Anonymous]

I’m looking to do this too but we’re hoping to record at 96kHz so we can’t use DVS.

What makes you say that? DVS supports up to 192khz.

No Compromise Performance – It’s Dante
Dante Virtual Soundcard delivers the legendary audio quality that has made Dante the leading choice for audio networking by sound engineers, manufacturers and installers the world over.

Windows: ASIO and WDM drivers
macOS: Core Audio integration
16, 24 and 32-bit audio at 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4** and 192** kHz
4ms, 6ms and 10ms fixed latencies
Ultra precision time alignment (1 μsec)
Up to 64×64 bidirectional audio channels
Supports Dante Domain Manager

[devanbumsteadParticipant]

Can’t do 64 channels at 96k. Only 32.

We will have around 50 channels.

[Anonymous]

Ah, I see.

[MichaelParticipant]

Nice! We look like to find a cheap, but working solution as it will only be used for training engineers. We already have a Mac mini, so if Garage band works, it will suffice! Do you need both Dante card at dLive and data virtual interface on the Mac, or only one of them?

Our dLive Dante card came with a bundled license of Dante Virtual Soundcard.

And seriously don’t use Garage Band, Reaper is free to try and practically free after that.

[Nicola A&HKeymaster]

@devanbumstead

Check with Focusrite for recommendation on PC hardware. But generally speaking, use a dedicated SSD drive for multitrack recording (separate from the OS drive).
Personally I would avoid Logic. It’s notoriously taxing on resources with multitrack recording. Use Reaper / Tracks Live / Nuendo Live then move to Logic for editing if that’s your thing.

[devanbumsteadParticipant]

Thanks for the tip!! I’ll look to bypass Logic for the recording purpose.

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