Sharing SQ control data over gigaACE

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  • #107168
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    Bartjan
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    Hi everyone,

    After watching the network-masterclass on YouTube I got inspired!

    Learning that gigaACE reserves a portion of the connection for control messages I was wondering if it is possible to have the following setup;

    SQ6@foh GigaACE to SQ5@mon

    No fancy network switch stuff, just PTP as recommended.

    I connect my stage router to one of the consoles, is there a way to control both of the consoles though that router? As GigaACE claims to tunnel normal IP data though the protocol?

    Thanks in advance,
    Bartjan

    #107171
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    Søren Steinmetz
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    You need to connect the network port of both consoles to the router, if you want to access both from an IPad or similar.

    The S-Link/GigACE ports will only send audio between the consoles if you connect those two together.

    #107180
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    Bartjan
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    Hello Søren,

    Thank you for your answer.

    Well of course I’ve tried the proposed setup. And I was baffled that A&H left out such an opportunity.

    Protocol was designed to encapsulate TCP/IP data, so implementation shouldn’t be difficult (correct me if I’m wrong).

    The obvious solution is ofc. Add another router in the equation. But what if we could use the connection in a broader way; tunneling midi/osc/otherdata through the available bandwidth. Would be grand!

    Maybe we should turn this into a feature request?

    Regards Bartjan

    #107195
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    Nicola A&H
    Keymaster

    Søren is correct. Although we generally use the term gigaACE for high channel count 96kHz audio connections, there are differences in the protocol implementation depending on device type.

    – dLive MixRack to dLive Surface using built-in gigaACE ports – over 300×300 channels of audio and encapsulated TCP/IP data for A&H control + third party data
    – dLive to dLive using gigaACE cards – 128×128 channels of audio and encapsulated TCP/IP data for A&H control + third party data (with network bridge On)
    – dLive to dLive using gigaACE cards with Gain Sharing active – 128×128 channels of audio and layer 2 preamp control, no TCP/IP data
    – SLink to DX Hub / GX4816 – 128×128 channels of audio and layer 2 preamp control, no TCP/IP data
    – SLink to gigaACE card – 128×128 channels of audio
    – SLink to SLink – 128×128 channels of audio

    #107199
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    Bartjan
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    Hi Nicola,

    Thanks for the reply.
    Well that’s too bad. And there ends the story I suppose..

    Would love to know more (from a data perspective) about gigaACE and it’s brothers and sisters. Might there be an abstract I can read? Like there is for i2s for example.

    Regards Bartjan

    #107203
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    Nicola A&H
    Keymaster

    Hi Bartjan,

    The DX gigaACE SLink white paper is a recommended read if you’re interested, however it doesn’t go into the specifics of different gigaACE implementations as we didn’t want to confuse users more than necessary 🙂

    #107204
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    Bartjan
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    Hello Nicola,

    I’ve already read that one, I’m afraid.

    Was hoping for some more brain challenging material:). If any arise, do let me know!
    Was curious how you implemented the firmware update though the protocol to the different stageboxes.

    Regards,
    Bartjan

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