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  • #85780
    Profile photo of Mr.X
    Mr.X
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    Is it possible to create a Pre-Mute Aux Send for a mix that stays active even when a channel is muted?

    #85788
    Profile photo of Steffen R
    Steffen R
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    not in this system…
    in Allen & Heath world a mute mutes everything

    Why do you need this?

    #85790
    Profile photo of Mr.X
    Mr.X
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    Same in Yamaha world, unfortunately!

    It’s for a backline mix so he can hear instruments before they’re unmuted for checking and tuning.

    #85792
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    Runepune
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    Create a digital split and gang the channels? Except mute and sends, obviously 🙂

    #85849
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    Michael
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    Depending on your global settings for direct outs, you could also use a pre-mute direct out.

    #85852
    Profile photo of Steffen R
    Steffen R
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    How about a second PAFL?

    #85866
    Profile photo of Mr.X
    Mr.X
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    Can each PAFL have separate settings? IE mix cue vs last cue?

    #85877
    Profile photo of Steffen R
    Steffen R
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    since 1.80 you can send a mix (IEM) to a PAFL bus and can configure them independent from each other,
    separated PAFL settings

    #85887
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    Mr.X
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    Very cool.

    Now if only they would add PAFL buttons to OneMix as I’ve been whining…

    #85895
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    Steffen R
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    Now if only they would add PAFL buttons to OneMix as I’ve been whining…

    that would be silly… it will become a two mix app
    one aux and one PAFL

    #86902
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    Senny
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    With custom control you don’t really need onemix, just a bit of time with setting up layouts.
    But they demonstrated this in their webinar, which I thought is a very ingenious implementation.

    #86920
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    Mr.X
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    that would be silly… it will become a two mix app
    one aux and one PAFL

    Incorrect.
    Tons of reasons to have PFL for a musician, director or tech using OneMix. Tuning his instrument while in a scene where the channel is off, for backline techs who need to hear different instruments throughout the show, for people practicing without disturbing others (if their channels are off on the console), musical directors wanting to solo up specific instruments to hear how people are doing, people soloing a mic they don’t have in their mix (like a talkback or audience mic) – there’s lots of reasons!

    #86932
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    Steffen R
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    All this is in my opinion not a usecase for OneMix
    OneMix is the simple and easy to operate monitor mix solution.

    You can build your own system with Custom Control for your needs…

    #86948
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    You can build your own system with Custom Control for your needs…

    Certainly that’s one way, but in it’s current form, it’s got a lot of limitations. No eq or processing adjustments, for example.

    Just add a PAFL button on OneMix. Simple. Done.
    If you don’t like it, don’t use it.

    #86949
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    Steffen R
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    why is it that hard to understand?
    that is not simple… wich PAFL for wich OneMix?
    and you need more buses per monitor mix

    this would be a real challenge and the effort is to high for that limited use

    OneMix is a easy to use personal monitor control app and that is ok.

    I don’t want to say the idea is bad,
    I’m just trying to explain that changing OneMix is not the solution for your particular problem

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