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GaryW 6 years, 1 month ago.
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2018/03/10 at 1:29 am #69466
Towards mid-year I’m planning on getting a SQ-5 mixer with either two DX168 or DX164-W expanders.
This is for a semi-permanent venue, the two expanders to be mounted stage left and right.I currently have a single ME-1 and am planning on adding four or more ME-500’s.
In the “Supported SLink Port Connections” document, it explicitly shows: SQ5 -> AB168 -> AB168 -> ME-1/500 etc
But it doesn’t specifically show: SQ5 -> DX168 -> DX168 -> ME-1 -> ME-500 etc?Can I assume that the second scenario will work?
Also, just to complicate things, could I put a PoE switch after the last expander for star connecting the ME’s?
2018/03/10 at 3:15 pm #69478Hi Gary,
you can´t connect a DX168 with the ME-1. The DX works on 96kHz and the ME-… doesn´t support it. So you can only choose for example the AR2412 that works on 48 kHz for work with the personal Monitor System from A&H! This is a very big angry trouble from A&H !! Bring us new Mixers with 96kHz and Stagebox but not working with their Personalmonitor Mixers…that´s very fine ! 🙁
2018/03/10 at 3:46 pm #69479Hi Gary,
sorry my english is not so good. Maybe you understand my post wrong, because i write it´s not work on 96kHz ? Of course you can connect the ME-.. Mixers directly on a SQ Mixer, that will work. But not at the DX168, because not possible to connect there.
2018/03/10 at 4:13 pm #69480have a look here
https://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/sq-6/#tab4
and download the document “SQ-6 V1.1.0 SLink Connections”.
there is very nicely described what works.2018/03/10 at 9:17 pm #69482As Gogos pointed out, the Personal mixers run on 48kHz (dSnake) whereas sLink (DX– products) run at 96kHz only. [ACE & Dante & Waves Soundgrid are ToBeDetermined (kHz)]
At present, you can have a 96kHz digital snake [NO ME’s] OR 48kHz digital snake & ME’s.
In the future the sLink expansion card will allow for a digital snake & a ME1 connection [local (sLink) port running as dSnake (48kHz) & expansion card (sLink) running at 96kHz for DX168 or DX32 or DXHUB].
I applaud A&H for the interconnectivity of the SQ-x series of boards, but I think a 96kHz digital snake option that works with ME’s is a blatant omission [perhaps it is in development].
I really think an extra port (ME_Link)=[dSnake] on the board would have been a better idea, putting the ME1/500/Hub on their own dSnake network at all times [either that or the new sLink card should have two ports on it, one sLink (96kHz and one dSnake (48kHz)]. They might come out with a sLink card for the ME-U with pass through that would be perfect. I really dunno how they’re gonna do it but it needs to be done for those that want personal mixers & dLive/96kHz preamps. Otherwise 96kHz is just another gimmick like everything else is these days.
My thread talks about this.
2018/03/11 at 3:39 am #69488Cheers for the input guys, thanks!
It does look like each of the DM0, DM32, DM48 and DM64 all have dedicated ME-1/500 48khz ethernet port. All options I suspect are fairly expensive!
When I went to the A&H Qu-series, I was really surprised at how much better the mic pre’s sounded and how much hotter I could run signal into them.
I am drawn to the DX168 (or DX164-W) as I am assuming they use dLive class pre-amps, A&H’s top of the line pre-amps.
Has anyone done any listening tests / comparisons between A&H’s Qu, SQ and dLive pre-amps?
2018/03/11 at 9:38 pm #69500I was just talking to my buddy about the x32 vs dl32 preamps.
Last reply by Tim:
https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,165374.msg1528260.html#msg15282603rd reply by Tim:
https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,162417.msg1494328.html#msg1494328Basically you can’t separate the analog preamp section from the rest of the board. The dLive is the best technically (objectively) sounding console on the market today; that’s not JUST because of its preamps.
Good, Better, Best. [Qu, SQ, dLive]
Yes DX168 uses the dLive preamps @ 96kHz. It will sound better than QU; but it’s just a PART of the ecosystem.
2018/03/12 at 3:03 am #69504Good points Lightingman117.
Thanks for the links too.2018/03/12 at 1:15 pm #69510I forgot to mention that the 96bit accumulator is a big part of the dLive’s sound quality and SQ shares it.
https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,165251.msg1524135.html#msg1524135
Info on accumulator & floating vs integer math
https://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,165379.msg1524844.html#msg15248442018/03/13 at 3:20 am #69558That makes a lot of sense, thanks.
I’ve gone ahead and added some ME-500’s to my current Qu-SB setup.
Will watch with interest as the time draws near to add a SQ-5 into the mix. -
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