Phantom power on of on soft key

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  • #57313
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    prashant
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    Hi there it’s Prashant here wanted to suggest, if possible for qu series press and hold for +48v on screen is very easy but some time as we need to provide phantom for lots of input at time if it’s come on soft key like mute on off then at least we press & hold softkey longer and select individual channel for which we need to provide phantom.
    If it is possible.

    #57317
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    GCumbee
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    While you request is understood I would ask why you need this ability on going? You typically set phantoms on a setup and they stay for the show or time being. It just seems like something that’s not such a problem when there are so many things that are needed.

    #57323
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    I thought it because for not to hold a touch screen every time to on off the phantom & once it comes on keys it will be user friendly also

    #57324
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    [XAP]Bob
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    I can see a possibility of wanting to somehow enable the sel buttons to act as phantom switches – new desk, lots of phantom required…

    Not sure how that would be done through the menus though – setting a soft key seems like a fairly long winded way to go…

    #57326
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    Hard to know Bob where that mindset [soft-key assigned to phantom] comes from However..
    Some older desks had global phantom switch or banks of 4 channel strips.
    Between scenes does that turn on/off phantom?
    I can only assume that changing bands might require a massive shift of different phantoms being activated or not.
    Then if that’s the case surely scenes would enable that?
    Have to be very careful when turning on phantom that all leads and wiring configurations are correct.. or kapowski!!
    Also if its just a QU16 without an iPad that’s a big chunk of soft-keys gone!?

    Actually I have re-read the original post.
    I see he is wanting to just hold and soft key and then select the require channels? mmm

    Maybe he has a point there?

    #57384
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    airickess
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    I agree with XAPBob. It’s quite a lot of menu jumping to simply assign a soft key to act as a phantom power on/off. It also sounds like it would make it much easier to mis-assign phantom power.

    #57390
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    Actually
    I’ve done a U turn on this.
    I can see a place on a QU24/32 for an instant look at what is phantom powered on what channel.
    So in the FOH or LR Master layer a soft-key to have a look and set at what is phantom powered and also another soft-key to view Comp and Gate.
    Pity there isn’t more softkeys?
    Oh give me a DLive! 😐

    #57418
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    I kind of think that a long press on the ‘preamp’ button (USB selector) could do this – but it’s somewhat risky from a UI perspective.

    Should always have been phantom rather than USB, that button

    #57421
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    Should always have been phantom rather than USB, that button

    Yes I agree.
    Maybe that could be changed?
    There is no actual writing on the surface [at the gain knob] saying USB? There is the USB symbol!
    It nearly makes more sense to me to go into the function key to set in/out preferences and there… You see every channel!

    Just dreaming~!
    wait for the feedback….

    #58543
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    Welcome to the space between the rock and hard place where I live.

    I am unlucky enough to have one of the early QU16 mixers that exhibit phantom pop pulse on all channels, muted or not. (reared its ugly head with latest version of the firmware) So don’t hot plug phantom, but make it a royal PITA to turn it off. There is an “optional” fix that is outside of warranty for my mixer for which A&H will not pay…

    I wrote A&H about phantom pop even when muted and was chastised by both A&H and this community for not turning phantom power off before connecting or disconnecting an input.

    Consider a open mic or festival situation where one is changing stages once every 15 minutes or every hour. Going through channel by channel and doing the long-hold phantom off really eats into the changeover times. (needless to see my fat fingers cover the button AND INDICATOR making it all that more a pain) Saving a scene with phantom for the various acts is a plus, but only if one can kill the phantom in-between.

    Two options:
    1. Being able to assign phantom on-off to the select key would allow a FAST way that could easily be incorporated into a fast workflow.

    2. Assigning a assignable button to global phantom on/off would be a great fix. Global off, global on based on channel configuration.

    One or the other, please, if it is INSISTED that the archaic practice of killing phantom when reassigning inputs between stage changes.

    Yeah, there are workarounds. Use the AB168, where hot plugging the phantom does not cause the pop. Load a generic scene that has all phantom turned off and then load the desired scene (hope no one os on an announce mic during the two scene switching)

    frank

    #58552
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    Long press on the Preamp button converting the sel buttons to phantom indicators still seems the most ‘obvious’ solution to me.

    It also makes a good way to visually check the state of all channels…

    Does QuControl not give an interface for this now? It’s not ideal, being slightly separated from the desk, but it could provide a good number of phantom switches on screen?

    #58619
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    fxk
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    Hmmm… going to have to look at QuControl to see if that is an option. Good thinking.

    #66753
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    Valentyn L
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    +1 to “Assigning a assignable button to global phantom on/off would be a great fix. Global off, global on based on channel configuration.”

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