Not underrstanding groups on Qu-24

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  • #39572
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    PAV
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    Just got Qu-24.Loving it. Upgraded to firmware 1.4. I am wanting to use it like the old Presonus Studiolive 24 it replaces, i.e. a stereo group (1&2) for vocals and a stereo group (3&4) for the rest of the band, both bussed to the main L&R outs. I am not understanding how to achieve this.Manual is really vague. Anybody help please ?

    #39591
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    Un-assign the channels and FX returns from LR (press LR mix button, press and hold the “assign” button on the LHS of the console, and press the select button on the relevant channels so they’re no longer illuminated. Switch layers and do the same with the FX returns.)

    Assign the channels to the groups (press the relevant group button, press and hold the “assign” button on the LHS of the console, and press the select buttons on the relevant channels/fx returns so they illuminate.)

    Assign the group to LR (switch to the master layer, press the LR mix button, press and hold the “assign” button on the LHS of the console and press the select button on the two group masters so they illuminate.) This step my be unnecessary: I don’t remember if gr1-4 are already assigned to LR by default.

    You can also do all this through the touchscreen (select channel, routing, “Audio group assign” tab,) but the above method is probably quicker for use with many channels.

    #39599
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    Thanks Cornelius. I will try that next time I use it.

    #39710
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    PAV
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    Thanks Cornelius. Worked great.

    #39911
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    Are groups the same thing as DCAs?

    #39912
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    Ryan. No they are not although people confuse the concept. Groups are just a submixer of the channels assigned to them. Just like on an analog console. The selected channels are unselected from the LR routed to the group then the group to the LR. Whatever processing is available on the group can be applied to all those channels as a whole.

    A DCA is just a way of controlling a selected number of channels as a whole only being able to control level and mute. It does not have any processing. The individual channels are left assigned to the LR.

    I have had to explained this to people for many years going back to VCAs(voltage controlled amplifiers) on analog consoles. Same thing as DCA on a dig console. Once they understood it they liked using it. Say you could have many stereo things controlled by a VCA without tying up two groups for stereo per instrument. That left groups available for other things that maybe needed overall processing.

    Hope that helps.

    #39996
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    And what’s not less important – DCA will also control post fade Auxes. Think of it as hand with infinite number of fingers moving all the faders but keeping their relative ratio.

    ddff

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