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  • #60301
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    John-S
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    OK Allen & Heath, I understand you cannot say what is coming out at NAMM 2017.

    How about this, post a smiley face if my investment in the GLD will be enhanced.

    Post a sad face if you are letting the GLD slowly go away…

    John

    #60303
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    GCumbee
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    Good luck John. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. Disappointment abounds.

    #60306
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    After NAMM 2017 starts I will know if I am shedding my system. For my new mixing style I require side-chain compression. Plus I am going to be giving some instruction at churches around my home. SCP will be the centerpiece of my presentations. Even though the GLD is a better system I have to let it go if I cannot make money with it.

    I also sit here with eight Aviom A-16II IEM mixers. I am selling them for my daughter’s church. I am also waiting until NAMM to see if I can make use of these. If I can get SCP I will make her church an offer on the Aviom lot. It would be a banging system. GLD80, Dante interface, 24 channel A to D, 8 channel A to D, five ME-1 IEM mixers, eight Aviom IEM mixers and road cases.

    #60310
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    GCumbee
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    What is SCP?

    #60329
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    John-S
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    SCP = Side-Chain Compression. Sorry I was not so clear.

    #60330
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    That would be SCC. I might have figured that out. 😳

    With all due respect please explain why lack of SCP(SSC)is such a game changer. Sure I use compression but I use what I have. I don’t see SCC being that big of a deal. I never worried about it in my old analog days when I had racks of compressors. I can’t think of a single major show for live or TV where I used SCC. I may have used it a little in studio. Probably in Pro Tools if I did.

    #60332
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    I only ever used side chain comp in

    a studio?

    #60334
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    Live on a bass side chained to a kick drum…

    #60335
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    I understand side-chaining is a useful tool, but far from a central workflow requirement.

    The following is a much larger signal chain overhaul, but I would like to see the following from A&H:

    – 2 Dynamic stages, with one stage either pre/post PEQ
    – Each Dynamic stage can be one of the following options:
    • Compressor (with source Key / side chain)
    • Multiband compressor (i.e. Dynamic EQ) – similar to the Digico S21
    • Gate
    • Expander

    #60339
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    George,

    Doh. Even after you brought it to my attention I had a brain fade. SCC, you are right. I do not even know where or how the P snuck in. I feel so dumb…

    #60341
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    I use side chain compression to tame FOH instead of multi-band compression on the main mix. I will side chain the Keys and 6-string guitars from my lead vocal. I let it reduce those instruments by 3 to 6 dB when the vocals get loud. It tames the peak level in my final mix. I almost never hit my output limiter anymore. And the vocals don’t hurt during a crescendo anymore when I want them front, center and clear as with the modern praise music I mix lately.

    Another use for SCC (got it right this time George!) is to greatly reduce (10 to 20 dB) the reverb and echo during loud vocal passages. If the song calls for it I can make huge tails behind the vocals without all the mud of non-side chain compression. Doesn’t sound like someone is yelling in a cavernous space anymore but there is a good memory of the phrase just sung.

    One song we do needs a quarter note call-and-answer echo capturing only two words at the end of a phrase. SCC does that for me.

    Yet another, When the lead guitarist is playing some counter melody against the vocals I do not have to ride the guitar fader. SCC just fills the spaces for me effortlessly.

    In quiet passages I like to have more reverb than when the band is playing at full steam. Light snare drum taps with a moderate reverb during a quiet vocal passage that comes out of nowhere. SCC to the rescue.

    I realize this much programming won’t work if you are a festival sound guy with no history with the band or no lengthy rehearsal time. But I have a 2 hour Wednesday night rehearsal then a complete run through before first service Sunday. The band members don’t change radically from Sunday to Sunday either.

    Last week during a full-house service the lead pastor, in the middle of the second song, walked from the front row to the rear where I was located, shook my hand and said the mix simply moved him and the rest of the congregation. Worth it? I think so.

    Sadly my GLD mixer cannot do any of the above. That is why I beg for side-chain compression so much. The GLD is far superior in every other metric I can imagine. I miss using my GLD.

    John

    #60388
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    Hawk
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    The new promotion on GLD starts now until march with a free AR2412, so I guess no new GLD for NAMM?

    https://media.sweetwater.com/store/pdf/allen-heath-gld-20170331.pdf

    #60427
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    As A&H introduces the new DLive C class at NAMM 2017 it really seems if GLD has reached EOL. ;-(

    #60445
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    NAMM 2017, Do GLD owners have anything to look forward to?

    Yes, the final nail in the GLD sadly.

    dLive C Class.

    #60453
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    Are you sure? Seems like an iLive-T successor to me.

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