Main L-R led and group outputs

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  • #123215
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    marcos
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    I keep getting this one from touring guest engineers and agree. The L-R led should be bigger and brighter and my latest thought should be green or white when in L-R mode and changes colour when in uax or mix send mode.
    Personally would prefer a seperate fader for mix/aux but that would be a bigger design change and not likely.
    And yes can be asigned on fader level but on a full show having desgnated Mains and seperate mix fader would be handy and cause less ‘whoops’ I accidently changed monitor mix I thought it was the main mix’ scenarios.

    Also having each send switchable as mix or group. not as a global group count – In a small semi-rural urban centre we rarely get a call for monitor desk but do use all channels and many monitor mixes from FOH. For smaller groups being able to select on the fly o switch let’s say mix 5 only to a group send.

    We keep our hearing assist, Program sends and archive on final mixes so they don’t have to change between users. We alternate between needing all remaining sends for monitors or only 3 or 4 in this situation it would be good to be able to quickly switch each send to either aux or group on a per send basis.
    And yes I did think about having a variety of show templates that get called up quickly but being able to switch mid sound check or even mid show as needed would be handy. This has been asked for by tours when we are half way through sound check and is doable when there is time, but when one has a touring tech unfamiliar with board and wants an instant solution and is uncomfortable having to reprogram IO’s while they have their talent on stage.
    Just a suggestion.
    Also everybody agrees needs more colour selection on the strips. The scribble strips being a non-stop source of complaints and pretty universal.

    #123219
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    Highflyer1953
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    You have just listed things you don’t like about the SQ that are more or less the same though the whole A&H ecosystem! I.E. aux/group selection being a show level change, there being limited colours to scribble strips, single master fader. (This later not applicable to Avantis and DLive).
    All of these would be major changes to the system,
    First, the mix channel assignment is a core function which necessitates an interruption to the audio flow, hence they are most unwilling to move that to scene level, and never to live livel.
    Second you would have to wait until it ripples down from DLive then Avantis before it reaches SQ. I would love that to happen!
    Third, it was a specific design feature, which they introduced with the Qu16, it was actually advertised as a benefit. I know it was one selling points when I bought mine. It would require a physical change of the LED in the button to change colour.

    #123243
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    SQuser
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    Just on marcos first topic:
    Unfortunately, the search function here in the forum is not ideal.
    (Or I am just too incompetent to use it properly.)
    Otherwise, we would find requests or posts that already exist better or more quickly.
    This also applies to your understandable wish for better identification of the SOF states.
    In other threads on the topic (some of which are several years old), the opinion prevails that it is not enough to change the color of an LED or make it flash.
    Also I am sure that this is overlooked in live situations, just like the existing color change in the header of the touchscreen.

    Make LR Mix Select flash when using sends on faders

    Flashing LED on mix select

    If you haven’t already, take a look at MixPad as an additional 2nd screen.
    Here, the fader backgrounds are colored in SOF situations.
    The highly recommended 3rd party app Mixing Station goes one step further, and its user-defined design options leave little to be desired even in SOF situations.
    But whatever: I also believe that the identification needs to be much clearer on the console.

    #123264
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    @marcos again
    I respect your wishes, but maybe I don’t yet fully understand what you mean.
    So please allow me a few additional questions:

    > … on a full show having desgnated Mains and seperate mix fader would be handy and cause less ‘whoops’ I accidently changed monitor mix I thought it was the main mix’ scenarios.
    But one single additional separate master mix fader won’t help you to increase the overview of, for example, 6 monitor mixes, because to change something in one of the 7 mixes you still have to switch to it.
    Although I also assume that during a show you don’t constantly have to change the master levels of your monitor mixes and the main LR, but the individual channels.
    But could it be that is in your projects are completely different?

    > Also having each send switchable as mix or group. not as a global group count…
    > For smaller groups being able to select on the fly o switch let’s say mix 5 only to a group send.
    > … it would be good to be able to quickly switch each send to either aux or group on a per send basis.
    I fear really that the mixed order of auxes and groups will make the ‘whoops’ factor you mentioned even worse – especially for people who aren’t so good at using the console.

    > We keep our hearing assist, Program sends and archive on final mixes
    Maybe it would be possible to use the matrices for some of this as well?

    > I did think about having a variety of show templates that get called up quickly but being able to switch mid sound check or even mid show as needed would be handy.
    What are you thinking of doing that isn’t already possible with scenes?

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