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2023/04/01 at 8:35 pm #112231DSGParticipant
Hey all, I came to this forum looking for info about my failing or failed iLives. I put in a lot of time. I just got some excellent support from A&H Uk and especially A&H support here in the US. I have learned so much. It seems like there is a lot of folks with questions about these SBC screen computers that allow us to interface with the onboard screen and control various other aspects. As best I can tell, there’s some info that is confusing because of all the different types of SBCs used during the production years.
From what I get, here is what you need to know about fixing your dead iLives (if the board works but the screen doesn’t, and you’ve determined that it is the SBC that has died or lost it’s mind due to the battery dropping so low). If after battery is/was replaced, and correct BIOS settings have been applied (possibly by an outboard VGA screen and USB keyboard, and entering password which is “digital”), if your iLive still doesn’t have a screen your SBC may be dead – that’s up to you to determine.
If you need a new one, A&H is STILL offering a replacement SBC OR SBC kit. You will need to determine what SBC OR SBC kit you need by the following info. Note that there is only ONE replacement part(s) so these parts are the replacement for any of the various SBCs used, and all based on that sole Advantech 2GB model.
There were 4 SBC’s used in the iLive range.
>The 1GB flash memory Axiomtek was used in the first series of modular iLives (S series)
>The 1.5GB flash memory was used on the Axiomtek SBC and this was the first T series run. THIS is the SBC that has the soldered in battery :(. THIS SBC and console has the additional small 1″ by 3″ or so circuit board on each side of the Screen (the old model).
>The 2Gb flash memory Fujitsu SBC was next and never in the S series consoles nor R72. This does have the replaceable battery
>The last production run (if I understand that right) is the Advantech 2GB flash memory SBC, and is the one STILL available.If you need a new SBC, you need to know which one you need because you may need the additional wiring kit that goes with that particular console, and comes with those particular SBCs.
If you have an iLive that has the newest 2GB Advantech SBC in it, then you need just a direct swap unit. This part does NOT have any additional wiring, it’s a direct swap only.
That part is the AH-004-096X Advantech 2GB ONLY.
To determine what SBC kit you need for the 1.5GB Axiomtek units or 2GB Fujitsu units here’s how you know:
With the console back panel off, if you have an older iLive with the small PCBs on each side of the screen, then that is an older LCD screen and the replacement SBC KIT is:AH-004-477JIT (Advantech 2Gb SBC includes wiring kit or adapters).
If you don’t have the PCBs beside each side of the screen then you have a newer LED screen. That part number is:
AH-004-478JIT (Advantech 2GB SBC includes wiring kit or adapters).
Of course one should be diligent and cross check with the dealer, but I’m pretty sure this is accurate. You can also get this from Full Compass but make sure you give them the correct part number or you might get the swapout 096 model only with no wiring.
The support I received from A&H this week cements that my next board will be a D-Live. I haven’t used one but my partner has, and he said it was awesome and I’ve only heard great things about it.
Yours Truly – Deafsoundguy2023/04/01 at 10:39 pm #112234IddyParticipantCheers Bud
Iddy2023/04/19 at 3:24 am #112479CJParticipantGreat information, and thank you!
Just yesterday, I booted my T112 and sure enough, the white touch screen of death!
I removed the side and back panel, and found that I have the Fujitsu SBC.
I went ahead and replaced the CR2032 battery.
I rebooted the T112, and still have the white screen.
Do you know if there is a procedure using a keyboard and display attached, that I can try and get the touch screen back to normal operation? My surface has been out on maybe 30 shows in its lifetime. I know its an aged unit, but the use factor is really low.
Appreciate any comments.CJ
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You must be logged in to view attached files.2023/04/19 at 8:30 pm #112493ECA_Chapel_ProductionParticipantThere is! I have done this recently with my T-80.
Plug a external monitor and keyboard into the back, then power the iLive on
Hold down the ‘delete’ key while the system is powered ON; this should prompt the SBC’s BIOS pages*
Select the Standard CMOS Features menu
PRESS ENTER
Set DRIVE A to: NONE
PRESS: ENTER
PRESS: ESC
Next, select the Advanced Chipset Features menu
PRESS ENTER
Set: AGP + P2P Bridge Control
PRESS ENTER
Select, Display Device [CRT + LCD] Panel Type
PRESS ENTER
set: 800×600 18 bit
Press: ESC
Press: ESC
Next, select the Supervisor Password menu
PRESS ENTER
Type: Digital
Confirm password: Digital
PRESS: F10
PRESS: ENTER
Re-power the Control Surface to ensure settings remain in place each time the system boots
NOTE: IF system prompts entry for the BIOS, type: ‘digital’ and press: enter
2023/04/20 at 2:00 am #112497CJParticipantFor the life of me, I cannot find the push button connected to the front panel connector on the SBC (Fujitsu). I have searched everywhere.
2023/05/21 at 8:04 pm #112975DSGParticipantI’m sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about…. did you ever get your iLive fixed? I checked on the box to give me notice if this thread was replied to, but never got a notice, hence the late reply.
Your comment that it has such low hours, well that’s part of the problem. Since it’s not getting plugged in, it has to draw SBC power from the battery, which shortens the life of the battery. If it used everyday, then the battery is bypassed and the SBC can remain good for quite a long time. If you just rarely use the console, then the battery will die a slow agonizing death, and possibly your onboard OS unfortunately.
I just recently got 2 NEW SBC units to revive my dead screen iLives. I haven’t done the surgery yet, but will update when I do. My experience from the 5 ilives I have is that the Fujitsu models die a worse death than the older SBC’s, and possibly took the OS with it. Kind of hard to tell because there’s really no way to test the integrated flash memory OP. And there’s no way to buy that part. They don’t sell it, and, there’s no part number for it.
Moral of the story here is if your flash memory card installed on your SBC dies, then even if your SBC itself was still good and revivable, you’s still be up sh*t crick because the OP is corrupted/erased and you can’t get another…. So then you are forced to buy a new unit to keep your iLIve going.
2023/07/13 at 4:02 pm #113672CJParticipantI am awaiting a new flash memory card that will arrive in 3 more weeks. The dealer initially sent me the wrong one, but with help from A&H and the US Distributor, I believe the correct one is coming.+
DSG, How did you do on your new SBC’s?2023/08/09 at 2:56 pm #114120CJParticipantThanks to Marko Kluge, I have resurrected my T112 with the Fujitsu SBC.
Replaced the battery, and followed his instructions.
In summary, I found it hard to understand that a memory card would just be ‘erased on its own”.
My screen is now functioning correctly.Thanks again Marko!
2023/08/10 at 1:58 pm #114135BärchenParticipant👍 thanx CJ
2023/09/11 at 2:31 pm #114743ddff_lvParticipantWell, the CF card does not erase itself, it just fails. I have done the restoration process several times and honestly think the CF was not a good idea even back then.
2023/09/29 at 4:34 am #115235SamParticipantWhere can I buy a Fujitsu SBC kit in the USA? Where can I buy a CF card for the Fujitsu SBC?
2024/02/12 at 4:12 pm #119379ArdianParticipantI have a program for SBC I Live, and I have moved it to a flash disk,, WhatsApp +6281229445410
2024/02/13 at 10:19 am #119410ArdianParticipantI can revive a dead SBC
and running normally
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