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  • #50323
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    midijay
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    hi all, i have a qu-pac and i need to reply the same mix of the LR main outs, to another stereo mix ..for example mix 9-10.
    i need to have the same mix withouts faders on mix-9-10…or better…for example , when i move the volume fader of ch1 in LR mix, the mix 9-10 will reply in automatic this variations without set the fader of chan1 in mix 9-10..is this possible?
    any help will be appreciate.
    thank you!

    #50324
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    [XAP]Bob
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    There are three obvious options:

    Use analogue splitter cables?
    Use Alt-Out?

    But there is a better way – since you mentioned the QuPac – use a Matrix out – and just route the LR mix into it…

    #50326
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    midijay
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    thanks for the answer.

    1)i don’t want use a cable split, i need to use another pair of out because i need different volume . es: LR at -20db….and mix 9-10 at 0db.
    2) i’ve tried alt-out, but the volume of the alt-out is post LR : if the LR volume is set low…alt-out is low too.

    i must try the Matrix..can someone point me in the right way?
    thanks to all!

    #50327
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    MarkPAman
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    Press {Channel Button}, Select [FX,Mix] [L+R]
    Press {Routing Button}, Select [Matrix] Tab, set to Pre Fade, adjust level as required.

    You will also need to route the matrix to a the Alt outs:

    Press {Setup}, select [I/O patch} and [Local]
    Change the Alt Out to your chosen matrix.

    There’s more than one way to skin a cat, but this one should work…..

    #50328
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    MarkPAman
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    And I’ve just realised that Alt out can be switched to L+R pre fade anyway, without needing a matrix.

    #50330
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    DavidCo
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    If you’re just after a copy of LR, the 2trk outs do exactly that.

    DC

    #50331
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    [XAP]Bob
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    Or – since you *don’t* want the LR master volume to affect the second mix… (My mistake)
    You could just route everything Post Fade to Mix 9-10 and set all the send faders at unity.

    #50333
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    midijay
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    MarkPAman: switch L+R to pre fade in alt-out work at 100% ..thanks for the tip. now volume are indipendent.
    DavidCo: the 2trk out is a good idea but don’t have separate volume …it depend from the main mix.

    thanks again!!

    #50334
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    knga
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    If you make every channel Post and set it to 0 db in Mix 9-10, all the levels should be same as on LR. But will it also have FX sends on it?

    #50335
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    midijay
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    yes…i have fx. is it a problem?

    i have set all faders at 0db on mix 9-10…all work fine now.

    #50347
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    knga
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    Days ago I tried exactly that, but I didn’t have my FX1 on vocals on Mix 9-10 (which was side fill Mix). How do I change that?

    #50349
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    [XAP]Bob
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    Put the FX return into the mix (as if it were a channel)

    #50353
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    midijay
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    i’ve understand the Matrix now, but i have a question: in qu-pac where are the xlr out of Matrix 1-2 /3-4? i can assign Matrix only
    to alt-out!
    qu-24 and 32 have xlr out for this.

    is that right…or not?

    #50354
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    DavidCo
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    midijay,

    You are correct, while Qu24/32 have dedicated XLR outs on the rear, Qu-Pac uses AES, Alt-out or dSNAKE to expose group or matrix outputs. The Alt-outs are still balanced though, so easy to convert back to XLR.

    DC

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