EQ change can be heard on aux

[Udarts]

We have set the aux to be post-preamp, which should be only the gain being impacted on the aux, but when we change a channels EQ, this can also be heard on the aux, while it should not be.

We just got the avantis mixer and still finetuning it.

Anyone an idea?

[Brian]

According to the block diagram in the Avantis 1.3 Firmware Guide (page 86), your assessment is correct. The “source option per Aux mix” (meaning it’s not a global setting, but one that is selectable for each Aux mix) shows that the “Post-Preamp” selection is located prior to any of the channel processing (deep preamp model, filter, gate, eq, compressor, inserts etc, etc, etc).

Of course there is also a Global Direct Out option which is global in nature, but that affects only the audio that is being routed out of the “Direct Outs” in the I/O tab. It should not affect the audio source location on the individual Aux mixes. Still, you might want to set the Global Direct Out to “Post-Preamp” to see if that fixes it. If it does, it likely points to a routing issue in the I/O tab where you are sending the auxes out via the “direct out” tab.

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[Udarts]

From what I understood is that the direct output only is for the Me1 we use. The aux channels do not use the direct outputs.

I don’t see why the EQ is still be heard via the aux groups.

[Brian]

The ME system uses direct outs, but you can also route anything out via a direct out on the I/O routing tab. Again, I doubt you would normally route your Aux mixes out via the direct outs, but it is possible to do. You at least need to triple check your output routing to make sure the auxes aren’t being feed from a direct out – especially when you are using them for ME purposes which could easily be set up with a global post-eq source point since there isn’t any ability to set channel eq in the ME system. Don’t assume things are set up like you expect them to be.

[Udarts]

Ok I have checked the global routing settings and they are on post preamp. Each aux is set on post preamp. The I/O has nothing weird set, nothing set incorrectly. I really think its strange that I can still hear the EQ on their aux when I make changes on the EQ of their channel.

[Udarts]

Ok, I found out that its not the direct EQ they hear, but they have an FX channel (to add some reverb to their mix), changes we make on their channel EQ are heard via the FX. Is there a way to prevent that?

[SQuser]

I can’t test it because I don’t have an Avantis at home, but maybe you could just use an Aux as an FX send (see pic).

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[SteffenR]

Using aux as FX send will not change anything regarding the problem. FX sends are the same as aux sends with a fixed target.

[Udarts]

I seems to have fixed it. The FX were on post-delay instead of post-preamp. Now the vocals do not hear the changes to EQ we make.

Thanks for thinking with me.

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