DX2412?

[alliParticipant]

Hello A&H-Team,

will there be other 96k-Stageboxes besides the DX168? The AR2412 is the perfect size for most acts I’m working with. Maybe release a new version with 96k-converters in it?

[Jens-DroesslerParticipant]

Has been asked before, but still a valid request. Same form factor as AR2412, please.

[Jordan T. HurtParticipant]

I’d personally pay extra for a 96k box that’s 32×16 or larger.

[ianhindParticipant]

+1

The DX168 is a strange product where you’d need 3 of them to achieve 48 inputs remotely, it would make much more sense to have a DX2412 which would allow two in a rack to achieve the maximum 48 inputs.

I understand the DX32 works, but again you’d be running a DX32 and a DX168 which is just awkward as it’s two very different units.

Either a DX4824 (similar to the DX32 with modular I/O) or a DX2412 must be made to cater towards this SQ crowd….

[Mfk0815Participant]

I am afraid that it is not possible to build a DX4824 since the DX Protocoll only supports max 32 channels in each direction. That is the reason why the DX hub is connected via gigaACE to the console (which supports 128 channels).
So probably in future there will be some stageboxes which are directly talking gigaACE.
(Hmm maybe to much communication protocolls for one company;-) )

[ceddParticipant]

Most flexible option would maybe be a 32 input rack with gigaACE back to the console and a S-Link port or 2 ready for additional DX168’s. Basically a rack with a small DXHUB built in. Similar then to the DLive boxes but without the “brain” inside. That’d give you a central “hub” connection point at the stage to bring most things to, then a satellite stage box that could go on a drum riser or (in my case) in the orchestra pit. If you wanted the full 48 inputs in one place then you just rack the DX168 below.

Any plans to bring out a smaller box? One of my favourite things about my Roland setup is the 8×8 stageboxes. They’re POE and are perfect for drum risers or to tuck away next to (or in!) your amp racks. One single cat5 and you’re sorted.

[Jens-DroesslerParticipant]

While a Stagebox with GigaACE (built-in DX-Hub) makes perfect sense for the SQ people, it doesn’t make any sense in the complete picture with dLive taken into account. The stagebox wouldn’t connect to the dLive’s DX ports, you’d need a GigaACE card for the dLive mixrack. That clutters up the portfolio and makes things unnecessarily complicated, as people have to watch what DX stagebox to plug where. A non-modular 3216 DX box or a 2412 with DX interface makes most sense in that context. Buying a DX-Hub and putting it in the same rack as the DX stagebox is more flexible in the long run.

[ianhindParticipant]

I understand the limitations of the protocol(s)

Maybe a DX2412 is the right option, if possible.

If someone needs two, the DX-hub would be placed in the rack to allow dual DX2412’s allowing 48 inputs in a small rack, which is the maximum of SQ capabilities and makes the most sense.

[alliParticipant]

Any official informations to that topic?
I mean if there will be some new hardware, A&H could tell us?

[ianhindParticipant]

Just adding a +1 for a DX2412

It would completely maximize all SQ series consoles as 48 in 24 out is its limit.

Toss two in a rack, 1 DX hub, and you have a full channel count remote I/O over a single ethercon.

I want to stay 96k so no AR2412 for me, I also don’t want 3 awkward DX168’s…

[j4k3st4ffParticipant]

+1 for this. Or a different option I’d like is a smaller specifically rackmount format DX168 that’s 2u? It’s annoying the DX168 is 4u when it can be smaller. My DX16/8s are rackmounted in a rack along with a 48 channel split and line system. I could cut the size of that rack down by 6u if the DX16/8s were smaller. I’m happy not to have a 48/24 or 24/12 IF the 16/8s were smaller.

[moebiusParticipant]

Hm, why not go modular and offer 16×8, 32×16 stageboxes with a slot for cards that deliver the Allen Heath Protocols and/or Dante, maybe MADI as well. On one hand you would loose the vendor lock-in, but on the other hand those boxes may pull in additional buyers who run Dante already, but don´t go for a new desk at the moment.

[alliParticipant]

Any news on that?

[gunzyParticipant]

https://www.allen-heath.com/media/DX-System-Guide-ISS_2.pdf

Look at the note on page 3

[SteffenRParticipant]

and this as well

DT168

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