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    Ok Thanks for the reply
    That pretty much sums it up for me.
    So to get max number of stage inputs [excluding local inputs] Could I run another Cat cable from the ‘expander port at rear of surface to an AR84’ being on stage?
    Whats the maxiumum distance for that?
    Assuming the average distance being 50 to 80 metres say?

    Thanks fvery much for your help.

    NZdave

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    120m. So you’d run 2x Cat5 cables from the console to the stage, and on stage on one of the cat5 cables you’d have an AR2412 and a daisy-chained AB168, and the other cat5 cable would have the AR84, for a total of 48x remote preamps.

    Edit: I’m pretty sure that the total length of the AR2412+AB168 can’t exceed 120m, so you could do 110m from the console to the AR2412, then another 10m into the AB168 to get 120m, and that would be the limit. What you couldn’t do is go 115m to the AR2412, then another 10 meters to the AB168, as then the total cable length between the 168 and console would be > 120m. Worth considering if you were planning to put the AR2412 on one side of the stage and the 168 on the other side, as opposed to having them in the same rack linked by a short patch cable.

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    Thankyou for that.
    To push that envelope a little more…
    Are all outputs easily assignable to where-ever on all of the AR/AB devices from the GLD?
    Hypothetically-EG: AR2412 downstage Left / AB168 Linked to
    down-stage Right and say AR84 to rear of stage?
    Thanks for you help.
    I appreciate the quick turn around whilst im sitting in editing suite mode fixing my iMacs.

    regards
    NZdave

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    Yep. Very easily. Press the IO button on the console, go to the relevant tab for the dSnake device, touch the relevant output socket and pick a signal (direct out, aux, group, main, insert point send etc.) You can do it one-by-one, but there’s also an n+1 function, whereby you can select one output (eg output5 on the 2412,) tell the gld which signal you want to appear there (eg bus7,) and tell it to do n+1 to output11, and it’ll automatically assign bus8 to output6, bus9 to output7, bus9 to output8 etc, all the way up to bus13 on output11. Download the GLD editor and play around with it.

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    I’m pretty sure that the total length of the AR2412+AB168 can’t exceed 120m, so you could do 110m from the console to the AR2412, then another 10m into the AB168 to get 120m, and that would be the limit. What you couldn’t do is go 115m to the AR2412, then another 10 meters to the AB168, as then the total cable length between the 168 and console would be > 120m.

    @cornelius78
    120m is the max allowed length of each dSNAKE connection, not the total run of the chain. However this is dependent on cable quality and external interference. Not all cables are guaranteed to work at 120m. Rule of thumb is stay within 100m to avoid pushing the limits (which might result in occasional QoS errors). So for example you can go 100m into the AR2412, then another 100m into the AB168 / AR84.

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    Thanks Nicola. I stand corrected. Good to know. I know I had issues once when I was using an AR2412 side stage and an AR84 as a dropbox behind the drums, and the total cat5 length from AR84 to GLD was >120m. When I moved the AR84 into the rack with the 2412 and used a short patch cable (incidentally bringing the total cat5 length down to <120m) it was all good, I just had to find longer mic cables. That’s probably where I got the impression that the total length of the dSnake chain had to be <120m. That said it was quite an old and abused cat5 cable that was going between the AR2412 and the AR84, so I don’t have a problem believing it was a dodgy cable and that the each “leg” of the dSnake connection can be 120m. Thanks for clearing that up.

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