Drum Compression as a subgroup channel QU16?

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  • #55191
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    Hoody
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    OK I admit it I am new to this desk QU16 and started using it straight out of the box. No problems so far however is it possible to put the drums into say a group then feed into another channel then compress and EQ and feed this back to the group rather like an aux feed into the drum mix?

    Having come from analogue I do get the difference between DCA/VCA and subgroups, perhaps I am asking too much but I really thought at the price point it would be possible. Any suggestions would be appreciated if only to put me out of my misery!

    Thank you in anticipation.

    Hoody

    #55194
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    Andreas
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    The Qu16 simply does not have groups as the larger ones (Qu24/Qu32/QuPac…) have. There’s another thread running on that topic including a maybe useable workaround here: Adding Routing tab to send Mixes to Mains

    #55198
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    You *could* sacrifice one of the mixes and loop back through the analogue domain – BUT you will introduce a small delay – and drums will inevitably be leaking into other channels, so you will get some phasing issues.

    #55210
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    Andreas
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    The delay from leaked mics is significantly larger than the internal two mSec. 2mSec is about two feet resp. 60cm, right?

    #55234
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    [XAP]Bob
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    That’s true of course.

    I’ll engage brain at some point 😉

    Worry about the routing, not the leakage

    #55237
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    The problem is if you take this approach and have the individual drum channels also assigned to LR (eg for parallel compression.) Then the delay on the drum group when it gets summed with the individual drum channels in LR will result in comb filtering.

    #55239
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    Andreas
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    That’s what I tried to express with: “You’ll get a delay of about 2mSec, so don’t mix the grouped signal with the original.” 😉

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