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  • #55849
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    Well, I tell a lie, I can get Reverb to work but God knows how as Ive set all the other FX up the same and they dont work at all.
    Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong here please?

    You may remember me from a while back as I was having issues with feedback which many people said many things about.
    I basically managed to cure my feedback issues by combining a number of methods:

    a) Set input gain so that it just touches yellow not red (I may abandon that shortly though)
    b) Stop messing around with the desk so much and go back to basics.
    ie Does it sound OK with everything flat? Then leave it alone. If its a bit ringy, dial in the HPF.
    c) Dont use any effects – Most of the venues I play (All smallish) have enough reverb in them already. No effects = No feedback loops.

    Also I paid a lot of attention to maximum gain before feedback – i.e. You can only add so much volume to a certain sized room before its going to feedback, so dont put everything through the FOH if its not required – Get the vocals up mainly.

    But I thought I’d have a go at looking at the effects again, both FOH and in the monitor mixes (We all use IEMs by the way, another way to avoid feedback) but I can only get the Reverb working (but not in the monitor mixes).

    Maybe Ive got it all set up completely wrong in the first place?
    All I have is the mics, the desk, IEMs and FOH speakers.
    Im not using any external effects units.

    For example:
    Ive got Reverb on Mix 9-10

    The rear of the effects screen for it states:
    Mix>Return
    Mix 9-10

    On the desk:
    Ive got a mic plugged into CH1
    Mix 9-10 fader up on upper layer
    Fader Ch1 up on lower layer

    and thats fine Reverb is coming out of the FOH

    but when I try the EXACT same thing with
    Doubler
    Delay
    Gated Reverb

    I cant get them to produce any effects on any channel

    Also I cant hear the FX in the monitor mix.

    I did have this all working fine before AGES ago when I had my feedback issues, but like I say, now nothing.
    I’m going to assume that I’ve not set it up right.
    So any help please (Sorry for wittering on)

    See below pics

    https://prnt.sc/b5n339

    https://prnt.sc/b5n3g1

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    #55864
    Profile photo of J3phMPJ3phMP
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    On your top layer (2nd pic) try bringing up the return fader on fx4 should be at unity. Or 0.

    #55869
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    Right – bring up the FX returns on the mains and the IEM layers. imple, really. and tells in the manual…

    #55872
    Profile photo of MrvoltzMrvoltz
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    I agree, FX return faders are at the bottom, usually at unity gain,helped someone else with this last weekend.

    #55924
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    Hi Guys
    When I bring up the return fader it still isnt working on
    Doubler (FX1)
    Delay (Fx2)
    Gated Verb (Mix7-8)

    but on Reverb (Mix 9-10)
    Is seems to add even more reverb, which then creates a reverb feedback loop.

    Its also worth noting that I DONT need The FX4 Ret fader to be up to get reverb on my channel.

    I assume Ive routed something wrongly for all of this?

    Routing screen shots attached (Yes I know some of these are set differently but Ive tried setting them all to the same as the WORKING reverb and it they still dont work)

    Any further help would be much appreciated.

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    #56086
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    Anyone got any help here please?

    #56093
    Profile photo of GCumbeeGCumbee
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    Can you email me a scene file? Offload to thumb drive and send from a computer. I will see what the problem is. Send it back to you.

    george@midcommav.com

    #56115
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    Studpid question… are the FX routed to LeftRight?
    And is the channel fader up, at least a bit?

    #56256
    Profile photo of coffee_kingcoffee_king
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    Can you email me a scene file? Offload to thumb drive and send from a computer. I will see what the problem is. Send it back to you.

    george@midcommav.com

    Hi GCumbee
    Sent by email to you.
    Many thanks for this.

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