Buss into a buss

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    I searched quickly but didn’t find this anywhere.

    A buss into a buss would be lovely!

    I like keeping my money fader going to its own buss, along with its FX, then into my main vocal buss so I have more control of it.

    Maybe I’m overlooking something but seems a buss can’t go into a buss.

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    Wouldn’t a matrixes work in this situation?

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    I’m already way too short on matrices unfortunately

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    Mike C

    If you want to just control the money channel buss and the general
    vocal buss together as in over all level control you could put them
    on a DCA group.

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    If you want a buss into a buss you have to take the first buss by an physical output then re inject it into an physical input and select the source in your second bus 😉

    But you will not keep the phase coherency !

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    Yes, problem is I’m “hacking” my way into having two insert channels since SQ can only have 1 insert per channel.

    Money channel insert is DynEQ4
    Money buss insert is a Neve 5045 & UBK Clariphonic.

    Ultimately looking to have those buss down into my vocal buss with Opt comp to glue all vox together.

    I understand this is asking a lot for a small console, just trying to maximize what’s at hand.

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    You can send an Aux buss (post fade for your situation) to a sub Group buss

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    Yes though about that too, as you mentioned phase issues and it just isn’t very elegant.

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    GutsyStudio D&D


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    KeithJ A&H


    The SQ architecture allows for the following routing:
    Input > Group > LR/Aux > Matrix
    Shown in the diagrams here – https://support.allen-heath.com/hc/en-gb/articles/4402940459537-SQ-Basic-Signal-Path-Diagrams-Input-Group-LR-Aux-Matrix

    This provides 4x insert/EQ/compressor and phase coherency as described here – https://support.allen-heath.com/hc/en-gb/articles/4402940899857-SQ-Phase-coherent-mixing-in-SQ

    So I am afraid there is no intention of adding routing from a group to a group or LR/aux to LR/aux in the core as it would cause issues unless you were very careful with what you were doing and made allowances for added latency.

    The workaround for this as @Hugo mentions is to either use an analogue or digital loopback, which will achieve this at the cost of latency/coherency.


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