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  • #104740
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    basd
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    Can i mute some outputs when some mic faders are open?

    #104741
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    Mike C
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    If you mean muting mix/aux or groups yes you can.

    You can not mute individual mix sends on a channel though.

    #104742
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    basd
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    I mean muting an output chanel

    #104743
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    Mike C
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    What are you calling an output channel?

    #104744
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    basd
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    One of the outputs on the back of the mixer.

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    #104746
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    Mike C
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    Yes every output is independently muteable (if that is really a word)
    And every output on an SQ can be patched to any mix out that you want.

    #104748
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    ioTon
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    Hi basd,

    I’m using BomeBox:
    https://www.bome.com/products/bomebox

    There I’ve written some code with Midi Translator Pro:
    When a Channel fader is higher than a certian Threshold,
    then the Bome Box will mute this channel send to an specific aux mix.

    I use this for live streaming, my setup:
    Control monitors at FOH are controlled via master fader.
    a little shoutbox is connectet to SQ (e.g. Mix Bus 1)

    When I close the vocal mic, it gets assigned (by the Bome box) to this Mix Bus 1
    So i can hear the vocal mic on my shoutbox.
    When I rise the fader, bomebox will mute this channel from Mix Bus 1 via the assigning.

    Give me a PM when you need some help!
    greetings,
    dd

    #104749
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    Mike C
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    Let me step back and say I completely missed the “auto” muting part of this
    question.

    What function do you want to achieve with auto muting an output?

    #104993
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    pilotfred
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    So, I’d like to send a mix to multiple outputs. Each output is wired to a separate meeting room. Are you saying I can mute each output separately? I’d love to be able to program buttons to do that so I could turn music on/off in that room.

    One example, our worship team practices between services. They want to record it using the same mix. They want me to turn it off in the lobby and classrooms because the teachers can never find the remotes.

    #104997
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    Mike C
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    So, I’d like to send a mix to multiple outputs. Each output is wired to a separate meeting room. Are you saying I can mute each output separately? I’d love to be able to program buttons to do that so I could turn music on/off in that room.

    One example, our worship team practices between services. They want to record it using the same mix. They want me to turn it off in the lobby and classrooms because the teachers can never find the remotes.

    How many different zone would need to be muted?
    How are they being fed at this time?
    If the band mix is muted to those zones does the zone still need a
    live audio feed with other audio program?

    #105005
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    KeithJ A&H
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    @pilotfred

    Hopefully clarifying some of the workings of the SQ will help understand the possibilities.

    Input sockets have an associated digitally controlled analogue preamp. The settings you see in the GUI change gain/pad/48V at a hardware level before the signal hits the ADC and from there it’s digital processing.
    Output sockets take a feed straight from a DAC but there is no control over this other than that which exists in the digital source (mix, direct out etc…) you’ve assigned to it.

    So you can assign a mix to many output sockets, but they will always behave the same way, as you are controlling the single source (the mix) and not the individual sockets.

    To achieve what you want to here then, you’d need to use multiple mixes that are essentially copies of one another, either post-fade Auxes or Matrices fed by the main mix.
    This will mean you can mute individual mixers and use the mix processing if needed for the different end points too.

    The muting of the mixes could then be automated using MIDI as per @ioTon ‘s very neat solution 🙂

    Cheers,
    Keith.

    #105006
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    pilotfred
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    Two outputs would be helpful, four would be awesome.

    We could do this a separate mix for each room, but unfortunately with everything else we have we just don’t have that many mixes available (most are used for in-ear and stage monitors).

    The rooms don’t need anything except the mix we have for them.

    #105007
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    Mfk0815
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    One possibility is to feed the in-ear and stage monitors via the ME system. This will free your mix buses for other tasks. Or you add a second mixer for monitoring. Or switch to a larger model with enough capabilities for your needs. An last option is to reduce your wishes so that they can be fulfilled with what you have.

    #105016
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    Mike C
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    Two outputs would be helpful, four would be awesome.

    We could do this a separate mix for each room, but unfortunately with everything else we have we just don’t have that many mixes available (most are used for in-ear and stage monitors).

    The rooms don’t need anything except the mix we have for them.

    You could use the matrix mixes to feed the extra rooms, though with your mixes
    all filled up that feed would most likely just be an extension of the main mix.

    Actually are you using a mix for live streaming, if so that could be a good choice
    to send to the extra room via a matrix.

    You could mute those rooms using the matrix master that feeds each room.

    Could you have some of the musicians share the same IEM mix?

    Good earlier suggestion about using some ME series mix stations to free up mixes.

    #105027
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    pilotfred
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    Keith and everyone….

    Thank you so much for all the feedback! This is my first experience with the forum and the response and support is amazing! I am so glad our worship minister chose A&H!

    Merry Christmas!

    Fred

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