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  • #43190
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    Les
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    I’ve come across a 2412 that was used with a GLD console. Will this work with the QU as well? I can’t seem to find anything that shows any difference between the two snakes but would like to ask to make sure before I buy. Thanks so much!

    #43191
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    Pete
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    I use one of those with my QU 24, so the answer would be yes :o)

    #43192
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    Leon BigEars A&H
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    TIP:
    make sure the AR2412 has last been connected to a GLD running the latest firmware
    in this way the AR2412 will have be auto-updated to the latest code which will enable it to work with the QU range.

    #43193
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    Andreas
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    Actually a new 2412 run instantly on a Qu, even without buying an additional GLD to upgrade firmware first… šŸ˜‰

    #43194
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    robbocurry
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    Works perfectly – just like the guys above said. Mine worked straight from the box, no GLD involvement required:)

    #43196
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    Les
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    Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it! I’ll try to find out that information…if it has the latest firmware. My console, the QU-24, does. Let me ask this. If, let’s say, the AR doesn’t have the firmware, can tha be updated without the GLD console?

    #43197
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    Andreas
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    I understand Leon’s tip this way: “Older” AR units may have a firmware which can not communicate properly with the Qu, and I doubt that such a unit will accept a new firmware from a Qu though. No idea if a Qu can update a Qu-aware AR…

    #43198
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    Pete
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    As the AR2412 just talks via standard ethernet, is it possible to update the firmware by connecting to a PC/Mac? If so, I guess a crossover ethernet cable might be needed if not going via a hub/router. Does the mixer act as a DHCP server? If not I guess you would have to connect via a DHCP enableded hub/router using standard straight through ethernet cables. I’ve had a route around the GLD/QU support areas for firmware updates to the AR2412 and I can’t find any.

    #43199
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    GCumbee
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    I regularly use one 2412 and an 084 between GLD and QU with no issues. Mix and match. Never a problem.

    #43201
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    mervaka
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    Pete: As I understand it, dSNAKE is just Ethernet layer 2 compliant. I’m not sure that necessarily means a firmware update is possible if connected directly to a PC. If it did, it would have to talk raw Ethernet.

    IP addresses, DHCP etc are beyond the remit of Ethernet layer 2.

    #43203
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    Andreas
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    Not sure its worth discussing updateability of the AR from PC or Qu. I don’t expect too much computing inside which needs regular updates, only expect some adaption to the dSnake protocol. If it works, no update necessary.
    Buying a used AR may require to check it is properly updated before.

    #43204
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    GCumbee
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    I think we have reached a point where Nicola needs to chime in and verify any of these speculations.

    #43206
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    updateability of the AR from MAC / PC or Qu?

    As I understand it, dSNAKE is just Ethernet layer 2 compliant. Iā€™m not sure that necessarily means a firmware update is possible if connected directly to a MAC / PC? If it did, it would have to talk raw Ethernet.

    IP addresses, DHCP etc are beyond the remit of Ethernet layer 2?’

    reached a point where Nicola needs to chime in and verify any of these speculations.

    Please!
    I have 3 huge events this coming week and need to know… just to know
    Thank you
    dave NZ

    #43280
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    Nicola A&H
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    You are pretty much all correct.
    AudioRacks are Ethernet Layer 2 devices, and cannot connect to a computer or router.
    AudioRacks can only be firmware updated with a GLD mixer.
    AudioRacks are compatible with Qu out of the box. We have tested all GLD firmware versions on an AudioRack back to V1.02 to work with Qu.
    There is one rare circumstance which might exhibit compatibility issues, that is a failed (interrupted) firmware update process on an AudioRack. In this case the AudioRack falls back to the original factory firmware and wouldn’t work with Qu.

    #43281
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    [XAP]Bob
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    Could a custom ethernet driver be put together for a PC allowing update?

    For that matter – what gets/needs updating?

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