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  • #71550
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    Jonathan
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    It’s not a huge deal, but NTP support on the dlive would be handy for logs. And just seeing what time it is. The built-in clock isn’t very accurate and gets off quite a bit in just a matter of months.

    #71557
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    Steffen R
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    I will not connect the desk to the internet in most of the cases, so NTP makes no sense

    #71562
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    Mfk0815
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    NTP also works without internet;-) and a common time basis over all devices in the network would be nice. Then both the sound engineer and the guy on the lightning desk knows exactly when to finish the job;-)

    #71642
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    Wolfgang
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    don’t you have a watch on your smartphone or on your wrist? 😉

    #71646
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    Mfk0815
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    I do not own a wrist mount watch for the last 30 years, there is no need for that for me;-) hmm, afaik is the Base OS for the console unix/linux. So it shouldn‘t be that big deal to use NTP.
    BTW. I am relativly new to dLive, so sorry for that question. Is at least a mechanism implemented to synchronize the watch of the stagebox/mixengine with the connected surfaces?

    #71660
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    Steffen R
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    let me clarify some… mostly we will use the system with stageboxes, mixrack and surface, maybe sometimes a laptop
    so there is still no ntp server involved
    then it makes no sense to have a ntp client in the system

    a good idea would be to sync the time of the system against Director instances available in the system…

    #71663
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    Mfk0815
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    Hmm Windows can act as NTP Server, MacOS as well, Linux also…
    and when the Director Software will be the time master I will suggest to use NTP as a well known, stable sync protocoll instead of reinventing the square wheel.
    Just my 2 cents.

    #79550
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    abeness
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    Another vote for NTP. Just because one person doesn’t connect the system to a network doesn’t mean that no one does. iPad control is essential for us, so we do connect our system to a network. Time is front and center on the main screen. Adding an optional NTP client to the system would be a trivial thing, and would eliminate one of those basic things that is best left to software to manage (well, for the last 30 years or so, anyway). You would be free to use it or not.

    No, I don’t use my smartphone while mixing a live show, nor have I worn a wristwatch for 25 years, nor do I have a clock nearby when our board is out in our balcony for a musical. 😉

    #79556
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    Mfk0815
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    Having a common time basis on all used devices during a show is always a bonus. Even if it is not that important how to implement such feature it is always a good idea to use an existing solution like NTP, which is now standard across all OS platforms, than reinventing the sqare wheel by creating a new mechanism.
    So my vote also goes to (X)NTP.

    #79750
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    jf
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    Hello Guys,

    Basically, the easiest way to handle all this without much development effort would be to implement a TeamVievwer solution in the Dlive. this to be useful at least in 2 cases.
    – Assistance and Maintenance from the internet.
    – In local mode, one could easily manage the multirack of a soundgrid or a recorder type REAPPER from the screen of the console!
    Personally I would not mind paying a TeamViewer license to have these features!

    #79948
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    dockopenbrook
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    Hey guys,
    nice discussion and I can see some good points in NTP as well.

    However I would like to have PTP. I think this will become a more and more important and some kind of the next timeclock. Broadcasters already try IP based workflows and their using this protocol to sync the equipment. With PTP you could not only keep the time in sync, the clock in the entire network would be consistent.

    By the way: I think Dante is using this protocol or part of this as well…

    #81024
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    Dan
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    We use a dual monitor Director PC as our “Monitor Desk”, so being able to time sync to the PC would solve the problem.

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