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  • #23460
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    MaartenLouer
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    Hi all,

    I was wondering how i can EQ instruments for in ear monitoring? It seems that i can only use EQ over Aux busses but when i EQ seperate channels then it will not be sent over the Aux where it should be. Lets say that the drummer hads in ear, so i give him a total mix of each instrument, how can i for instance EQ the guitar? hope i explained it well.

    kind regards,

    Maarten Louer

    Hi all,

    Just figuring out howto do some EQ over monitors. It seems that i only can EQ things on the Aux bus, but not on channels. Lets say i have a stereo in ear mix, and the singer wants the guitar to be EQ’d how can i do that? FOH EQ is no problem but EQuing instruments over Aux channels. kind regards,

    Maarten Louer

    #32336
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    scruffyd
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    If I understand you correctly you want to be able to apply seperate eq to channels being sent to a MON aux while retaining the eq being used for FOH?

    The normal procedure for this is to split every channel that needs to have seperate eq settings in the MON aux.

    So you have one physical input routed to two seperate channels in the ilive. One channel dedicated to FOH mix not being sent to any MON auxes and one channel dedicated to mon not routed to FOH L/R. These two channels share only preamp gain and48v so set gain sensibly and use trim from then on to make alterations in signal gain before channel processing.

    This also gives you the freedom to apply compression to FOH channel only and leave the MON channel uncompressed providing better dynamic response to the artist/musician and creating less potential feedback trouble on stage.

    On an ilive you get 64 internal channels, so lets say you have 24 inouts to mix, then you can easily split every one of them and still have room for extra inputs.

    IDR32
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    #32356
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    kentlowt
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    or you could set your routing on your aux mix to post eq. scruffyd’s method is a lot more flexible but, if you are running out of channels just changing the routing method will help you out.

    112T/IDR48/IDR16

    #32358
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    MaartenLouer
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    Thanx for all advises,

    Still have to try this.

    Ok simple question. Is there an option where i can choose between post/pre EQ? that would be nice. Then i can EQ instruments seperately from FOH and Monitors.

    regards,

    Maarten louer

    Hi all,

    Just figuring out howto do some EQ over monitors. It seems that i only can EQ things on the Aux bus, but not on channels. Lets say i have a stereo in ear mix, and the singer wants the guitar to be EQ’d how can i do that? FOH EQ is no problem but EQuing instruments over Aux channels. kind regards,

    Maarten Louer

    #32359
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    joefi
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    dear Maarten,

    what do you use for mixing – Editor or Surface?

    br

    joe

    iDR32 + IPad1 + Laptop + R72
    *** less is more ***

    #32360
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    Dave
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    You must be referring to the GEQ?

    There’s the 4-band PEQ on ALL channel strips. There the GEQ on all group/aux/matrix/main.

    iDr48/T-112/MADI/Dante

    #32374
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    MaartenLouer
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    Hi DBURRIS

    So what i can do is make a group, put in the guitar and route this to the drummers aux?
    then i can EQ the group where the instrument is on and this will not affect the FOH EQ or the EQ set on the Aux bus….. If this is the case then i hope i will get more mono groups in the future. Now its only 4 mono and 2 stereo. iLive Editor v1.9

    thanx all i think i can move on with this.

    Hi all,

    Just figuring out howto do some EQ over monitors. It seems that i only can EQ things on the Aux bus, but not on channels. Lets say i have a stereo in ear mix, and the singer wants the guitar to be EQ’d how can i do that? FOH EQ is no problem but EQuing instruments over Aux channels. kind regards,

    Maarten Louer

    #32375
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    woutert
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    quote:


    Originally posted by MaartenLouer

    If this is the case then i hope i will get more mono groups in the future. Now its only 4 mono and 2 stereo.


    Maarten,

    We do not need more mono groups. Already iLive is much more flexible than a lot of other systems.

    What you’re doing is creating a separate monitor mix. Previously one needed a second mixing desk to achieve this.

    In the second post the answer to your question was described: “The normal procedure for this is to split every input that needs to have separate eq settings in the MON aux to a second DSP channel.”

    Wouter
    IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad
    laptop, TP-Link TL-WR1043ND

    #32378
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    joefi
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    hi maarten,

    have made a short video, hope it explains it a bit…

    https://vimeo.com/55379023

    regards

    joe

    iDR32 + IPad1 + Laptop + R72
    *** less is more ***

    #32379
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    simonstpauli
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    quote:


    Originally posted by MaartenLouer

    Hi DBURRIS

    So what i can do is make a group, put in the guitar and route this to the drummers aux?
    then i can EQ the group where the instrument is on and this will not affect the FOH EQ or the EQ set on the Aux bus….. If this is the case then i hope i will get more mono groups in the future. Now its only 4 mono and 2 stereo. iLive Editor v1.9

    thanx all i think i can move on with this.

    Hi all,

    Just figuring out howto do some EQ over monitors. It seems that i only can EQ things on the Aux bus, but not on channels. Lets say i have a stereo in ear mix, and the singer wants the guitar to be EQ’d how can i do that? FOH EQ is no problem but EQuing instruments over Aux channels. kind regards,

    Maarten Louer


    You can raise the number of groups (you might have to lower the number of other Busses) in the mixrack setup / mixer config page.
    The group to monitor aux method can be very useful sometimes for compression, eq or just grouping.

    Christian Tepfer
    Hamburg, Germany

    #32474
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    MaartenLouer
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    Hi Joe,

    thanx for you’re reply and video. it was very helpfull.

    thanx

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    Originally posted by joefi

    hi maarten,

    have made a short video, hope it explains it a bit…

    https://vimeo.com/55379023

    regards

    joe

    iDR32 + IPad1 + Laptop + R72
    *** less is more ***


    Hi all,

    Just figuring out howto do some EQ over monitors. It seems that i only can EQ things on the Aux bus, but not on channels. Lets say i have a stereo in ear mix, and the singer wants the guitar to be EQ’d how can i do that? FOH EQ is no problem but EQuing instruments over Aux channels. kind regards,

    Maarten Louer

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