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UPS Battery in same rack as mix rack?

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2012/10/19 at 8:37 am #23362

clarocque
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Does anyone know of a reason the UPS battery back up for the mix rack should not be racked in the same rack as the mix rack?

Or the Furman voltage regulator for that matter?

Do they need empty space above for any reason? Could there be any kind of interference?

2012/10/19 at 9:54 am #31738

Lieven-Dewispelaere
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Hy,
My rack mounted ACP ups is just below the IDR rack and i had no problems what so ever in 3 years.

Lieven

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2012/10/19 at 10:30 am #31740

Anonymous
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quote:

Originally posted by clarocque

Do they need empty space above for any reason? Could there be any kind of interference?

I wouldn’t worry about interference (or at least, I’ve never had any problems), but heat could be a problem if you’re stacking too many things together without space in between.

2012/10/19 at 1:46 pm #31742

sraymond
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No problems here as well. Not in the same rack but sitting under or on top of the mixrack. Considering UPS products are used and built for computers for the most part, they should fit the purpose well. Of course you still get what you pay for just like anything.

Scott

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2012/10/19 at 4:05 pm #31746

Mr-B
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If you are putting blanks and vent panels in the rack to make the world more tidy you might consider fan cooling the rack, it can get a little toasty in there, even a couple of mains fans in series to keep then quiet helps to pull the hot air from the top of the rack, remember to vent the bottom for cool air in though. I use a cheap fan panel bought from CPC, DC fed from a wall wart, little bit noisy if doing an orchestral job so I either move it away or turn off the fans.
2U APC 1400VA UPS in the bottom, iDR10, Gigabit switch and a connection panel job done. Read somewhere that Network switches used for audio don’t like getting too warm, not sure where. Never had trouble with the set up, well only lifting it[8D]

2012/10/19 at 5:35 pm #31748

clarocque
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right now I have idr48 -> space -> and furman AR1215…

I want to add a 1u UPS, would it be smarter to move either the furman or the UPS to a standalone rack vs packing all 3 into the shock rack? (for heat)

2012/10/19 at 7:00 pm #31749

Albin
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Just asking – for what reason would you need the Furman if you have an UPS?
I assume u buy an online ups (online=the plugged in equipment is always powered via the battery) – so why an extra voltage regulator?

Or do i get something wrong here?

2012/10/19 at 8:08 pm #31750

clarocque
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I had the Furman first and do NOT have online UPS. It allows me to protect other things that I do not need on UPS too.

So I might be the one doing it wrong… but the 1U Trip-Lite is much lighter and allowed me to get several for the same price (for different locations , mix rack, FOH, mon desk). It switched over fast enough, so I felt leaving my AR12-15 in front of the UPS would add another layer…

2012/10/20 at 7:04 am #31753

Albin
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Oh, you take the furman for more than just the mixrack?
I suggest if you buy an UPS – buy an online ups – plug the mixrack in – and take the furman in an rack somewhere else for your other equipment – is the rack where the mixrack is is not big enough.
And just to say – buy also an ups for the surface – saved my show a couple of times.
1. the surface is more expensive then the mixrack.
2. the surface needs to boot way longer then the mixrack – so spending money for an small ups for the surface is good invested.

2012/10/20 at 4:27 pm #31754

clarocque
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Yes, I would also plug other things in the furman (as needed).

Not usually things that require the protection but because I had it there I would use it.

The rack the mix rack is in has 2 open spaces. Which is why I was asking if I needed to leave an empty space above the iDR or if I could put both the Furman and UPS in the rack with no space.

SO from what I am getting, there is no need to have the furman before the UPS?

What if it is NOT an online UPS like: https://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=744&txtModelID=2853
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