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Originally posted by Leon BigEars

BTW, I put in the blog, only because I care about you guys waiting, a few of the items that we were previwing at PLASA to show work in progress on V1.9 and maybe give some indication of the depth of the work involved behind these features. Namely:
AES out option
Dynamic EQ
Graphic EQs
Stereo IP tools
Multi-band Compression
Tap Tempo on MixPad
Delay bypass

PLASA was a ‘public’ show, and anyone was welcome to visit and see for themselves where we are up to. That’s why I put up some things for people who couldnt make it along, out of enthusiasm!
To publish a comprehensive list of proposed V1.9 features on the forum is pretty careless as, until we finish testing all aspects of the iLive family of products, we reserve the right to change withdraw, even add features as appropriate. Albin’s list looks like the sort of thing we privately show our distributors re the scope of our activities, and to pre-empt training and awareness needed before we have a product to launch. I could give him a list of what cars the R&D guys drove to work today if that helps in Austria

please do not adjust your set; normal service will be resumed as soon as possible!

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I would have been happy to hear the following at the start of this thread – “we have add a few of the most requested features including dynamic EQ, multiband compression, selectable GEQ types and an AES output option… and a lot more. iDr10 owners will have to upgrade the DSP but it will be offered at a very respectable price and ensure a pathway for future upgrades. We are hoping if the Beta testing goes well for 1.9; it and the CPU up-grades will be available in October.”

Peter

Well I’m not moaning! – I’m very happy with my iLive’s.. Just knowing that new and requested features are on the way makes me feel like a kid before Christmas! Bring it on!

Oh and I have a suggestion also – Scene Safes: It would be good to see partial scene safe channels indicated with a flashing blue mix key when you hold down the surface scene safe button. At the moment only channels that are completely scene safe have their mix key show a blue solid led.

Thanks A & H for listening!

Cheers

Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17″MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control

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Originally posted by tk2k

Nope, Pro2 and Pro2c. Build quality it low. Already had issues with phantom power cutting out mid show, scrolling layers as opposed to real layers, etc. It’s just MIdas version of GLD

iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College

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err.. you do realise that the difference between scrolling layers vs vertical layers is only in your head? The buttons do exactly the same thing, they are just labelled horizontally or vertically. It’s just the way you choose to visualise it! They are not real!

FWIW, I have no issues with the build quality of my iLive. The T series, however, is no where near as robust. I have seen the plastic surface begin to bubble up outside on a 25c day! It is really an install only console in my opinion.

I guess being told I need to spend more to get the new firmware has hit a bit of a raw nerve.

My iLive has just cost my business several $K to replace 2 faulty pcb’s and in crosshires for a replacement console, as mine was offline for over 6 weeks due to the ineptitude of my local distributor. 5 weeks after I ordered the parts they still had not put the order through to the UK. It took a phone call from me to A&H in England, who then contacted my local distributor and organised an air courier, to prod them into action!
I’m lucky enough to have used almost all of the digi consoles out there, and I can honestly say the iLive has the best UI and workflow of them all. I do love the product. However, in my situation, more than just the console needs to be professional. The infrastructure surrounding it has been decidedly MI at best and I need support that comprehends that this is a professional console that is an integral tool in the running of my business.
I have been waiting for 1.9 to decide whether to keep my loyalty to iLive or jump ship. I don’t need teasers on a blog or to get fuzzy feelings from seeing forum members names on the touchscreen. What I do need is a professional level of support and factual information from A&H so I can make informed business decisions, and be confident I have a tool that is capable of doing the job I need.

Darren

Darren

I once had an issue with the CF card in my iLive.
I made a call to A&H after hours and within 20 minutes had an international call back from one of the guys who helped build the thing.
They put up an ISP image of a CF card on their web server and talked me through burning it to a new card.

If that is not support I don’t know what is.
That was back in the days when the modular series was all they had.
Now the T series is out, you can afford to carry spares to gigs. I usually have a spare mix rack ready to go for large gigs. Not that I have ever needed it, but support is far less of an issue these days. These things are pretty robust.

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Originally posted by millst

Darren

I once had an issue with the CF card in my iLive.
I made a call to A&H after hours and within 20 minutes had an international call back from one of the guys who helped build the thing.
They put up an ISP image of a CF card on their web server and talked me through burning it to a new card.

If that is not support I don’t know what is.
That was back in the days when the modular series was all they had.
Now the T series is out, you can afford to carry spares to gigs. I usually have a spare mix rack ready to go for large gigs. Not that I have ever needed it, but support is far less of an issue these days. These things are pretty robust.

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Hi Millst,

FWIW I think Darren has been very polite with his comments, I know exactly what he has been through, he was hiring one of my iLive’s while he was trying to get his working again. I have seen and inspected the failed boards and I know exactly how long it took. Darren is also a qualified and highly competent electronics technician.

Having said that, I think sh*t happens from time to time and there are no problems with A&H reliability or their support anywhere – I love the local guys with a passion.

The issue that upset me was that I have been waiting and waiting, hoping that A&H would address a couple of things I need, then it appears that those of us that have the big expensive desks will not be able to take advantage of them …. then it looks like we may be able to by upgrading the CPU, I thinking A$3500-ish – I’m guessing based on the price of an iDr10 rack/PSU/Rab2 etc… but who know when … another year. I now believe it will be sooner than later :o)

To me A&H should have given us all a bit of a head-up after Plasa… this thread would have been much shorter []

Peter

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Pop groups, vca groups,”extend mode”, “area B”, one of the things it excells at is getting what you need to your fingertips straight away!
I have been hoping A&H would introduce something akin to pop groups.

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I have been asking A&H this for over 2 years now.
Their response in March 2010 was:

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iLive does not offer this option at present, however, your message has been forwarded to our iLive R&D team and logged as a feature request for future firmware updates.
Thank you for your interest.

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To me this is the last thing that is really missing now we going to get most of the other requests in 1.9.
One’s you used this kind of interface on any of the other desks that have this (almost all) you can’t go back.

Peter

I have a question about the new dsp.
Will it make the modular series as fast as a gld or only bring it in line with a t series.
I have noticed the gld is super fast at doing a mixer reconfiguration compared to both series of ilive.
The gld is also super snappy.
If it meant we got the same snappiness in the modular series it would be worth the upgrade even without 1.9

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Originally posted by PVH

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Pop groups, vca groups,”extend mode”, “area B”, one of the things it excells at is getting what you need to your fingertips straight away!
I have been hoping A&H would introduce something akin to pop groups.

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I have been asking A&H this for over 2 years now.
Their response in March 2010 was:

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iLive does not offer this option at present, however, your message has been forwarded to our iLive R&D team and logged as a feature request for future firmware updates.
Thank you for your interest.

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To me this is the last thing that is really missing now we going to get most of the other requests in 1.9.
One’s you used this kind of interface on any of the other desks that have this (almost all) you can’t go back.

Peter

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Hum hum hum[]
Pop group ….pop music…
Few years ago French digital mixing desk Innovason SY already introduce some function like this.
A way to reproduce this on ilive is to create scene only including “strip assignment”
inside those scene , set and organize your strip in layer A,B,C,D in bank 1, 2, 3 as you want ….drums input, percu, horn , voice …then use the user key to recall those “group” on your fader layer bank or use a PL box to do it. I know this is not so easy as POP group but if you have a big gig that could be helpful..

We are lucky to get the opportunity to build or own personal accessory tool with A&H PL..

In the same way I many time organize the all A level layer of the 3 bank set to input fader ,to get all my band under finger then use “Mix COMBO PFL/SEL/MIX” on userkey or PL6 or 10 to recall all my mix send.

If not to late some last request for v1;9 coming soon …
Be able to send input to group with a choice PRE or POST Delay...because if you use Group to add external (Analogue) treatment and want to add the original signal (as in the parallel internal dry/wet comp fonction ) you create sometime strange like phasing due to A/D D/A latency. You won’t be actually able to avoid using delay on concerned input because send to group is Post Délay.

A way to set a fader to zero position as in the GEQ mode…
Perhaps in the future would it be nice to be able te get a fader calibration as in GLD!
also request a comfirm message(choice yes/no in the preference) when reset a Mix.using reset button (sometime “reset”stuck cause of dusty then imagine what’s happen then when you recall a mix..)
a longer Delay…in Fx
And last but could be wonderfull to be able to routing the up / down stream channels still available from port A to Surface modular Port B (to use a Dante card at FOH to rec or insert PC/MAC plug in)while using idr10/idr16 my port B ethersound card (M=ES=V2 updated to ASIO fonctionnality …hihihi) to record or share input channel.
Anyway thank A&H RD to offer us soon most of the wish we had from a long time in v1;9…
I’m happy to be able to hard update my iDR10 for a reasonable cost than to see my ilve system obsolete[].
In fact the only regrets I have on my 144 is that faders or economic one’s [V], dependent of dusty with time, touchscreen and Strip led screen or not brighting enough (compare to T séries), some headroom noise on the headphone output.
For the rest my iLive never crash, never bug, for all the last 4 or 5 years. Providing me great big sound.
And special thanks to the A&H support team to be so rapid and efficient to fix problem, emergency we met “so” few time for all those last years [].

Yannoush

Yann

Ilive 144/ Idr10/ idr16/ R72/ Ethersound+ LX6464ES