Hi frozenwaffles

Sorry that there has been some confusion with the Scene Safe system.

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Perfect example is is… Patched a channel at the last minute for the talkback mic so VO’s can be made from FOH…recall safes the channel…go through the show…come to interval, go to use talkback mic channel and BOOM guess what…it’s not patched!

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I have looked into your problem about the talkback source being unpatched from an input/mix channel after a scene recall. The input/mix channel source safe’s are set in the ‘Patchbay’. To make sure that none of the input sources change during a scene recall you will need to make sure the ‘Patchbay’ scene safe button is highlighted green. This button is found in the sceen safe page under the tab ‘Other’.

I will investigate improving the documentation for scene safe’s for the next release of firmware.

Regards
Sam A&H

So My Question…Sounding like a dummy….Whats up with the scene fades for theatre. Keep in mind I dont do a lot of theatre. Mostly live bands and House of worship. Scene fades are great for lighting :0. Just asking because i am not up on the request for this feature or maybe even how it would be handled by the Audio Mixer.
Just as an explanation. I have had a hard time with some of the scene safes and recalls. However with a bit of work starting to understand and adapt to the Allen and Heath method. Actually works quite well when setup properly. I likesome of the ideas of use gathered from some here on the forum. I still beleive that after sitting behid many other consoles of many different brand names, I-Live gives more bang for the Buck, and they do tend to listen to the user input from us here….Rock on

JEFF FLOWERS
VOLCANO ADUIO PRODUCTS
SHEPHERDSVILLE KY-USA

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Originally posted by Stealth
The ability to make an Aux Mix scene safe is possible, hold down the ‘SCENE SAFES’ button on the surface and then press the ‘MIX’ key on the mix channel you wish to make safe.

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As far as my experience goes this makes the settings of that mix channel ‘scene safe’ but not the mix itself, meaning, each individual send level to that mix.

And that’s exactly what you want for instance to have monitor mixes not being influenced by scenes. While you don’t want to exclude the channel sends from the scenes because you want to save effects sends within a scene.

That’s also why I proposed earlier on to distinguish effect sends and aux sends in the scene content. Mostly I want effect sends to be included in the scenes, I seldomly want a monitor send to be included in a scene. Ideally we could have all sends in the scene matrix and exactly indicate which send we want in our scene and which send not.

Up till now the *only* way that I could achieve a separation was by patching all inputs to a second set of channels but that’s not always feasible.

Wouter
IDR32, R72, Dante, Mixpad
laptop, TP-Link TL-WR1043ND

A more advanced secene editing is something that needs total re-write, and this will take a new processor. So, I’ve just learn ed to make do.
To work with what we’ve got.
It’s still a low price system doing one hell of a job.

If you need more advanced scene editing use DiGiCo orMidas.
But they have other disadvantages…
I have a SD10 in my rental fleet, but it’s always the iLive’s that is out working.
And my weapon of choice for many reasons.

Regarding working with what you got,

One thing that’s been working great for me is.
Recall safe a mix under 3-4 songs to make your monitor adjustments on soundcheck,
and store each scene.
And then exit recall safe for this mix and press next in your set-list and you have your
changes saved to the songs you did.
Or just have the mix recalled saved the whole show , do your changes and then lift safes.

You can also take out everything from the scene structure and just save small amount of stuff, then the update process goes much faster.

I have not have any problem with the recall safes?!

It is what it is, and of course we all wait for a lot of stuff to be implemented into the iLive
system.
I meet with people at A&H 2 years ago discussing the scene editing and the demand
from my clients regarding i.e. distortion fx’s.etc. Which it looks like it’s coming.
Scene editing changes will realistically not surface until next generation of iLives.
Which I personally think will be 1-2years away.

THIS, despite…
I still use iLive as my main companion and a lot of my clients favorite “JEEP” desk.

If you need things thats not in iLive, use another desk…simple as that.
I don’t think anyone bothers to mail Yamaha,
prompting for them to make improvements on the LS9.

Having said that, I think it’s important to come with ideas and criticism.
Both negative and positive.

Parashoot
Sweden