Hello guys,

Seems to me that if you connect a surface to each rack you need a ace card in each rack to connect them to each other. if you would use only one surface but two racks you will need only 1 ace card.

So you’re both right in your own way, but i is righter then you (i think that wasn’t an english sentence, sorry)

Have fun!

Gijsbert

Hi All

Just to clarify for you all.

Dual MixRack mode only supports 1 iLive surface connected to 2 MixRacks which gives upto 128 input channels within the system.

Firmware –

1.61 – To setup Dual MixRack mode you need to connect Port B of the master MixRack to Port B of the Slave MixRack. This means with all system you will need to purchase a compatible module card for port B of the Master and Slave.

1.63 – To setup Dual MixRack mode you need to connect Port B of the master MixRack to Port A of the Slave MixRack. This means that if you have an iDR16,32 or 48 as your slave you just need to purchase 1 ACE card to go into port B of the Master MixRack as Port A of the Slave will have ACE built in.

Hi Kent

From what you have described you will be using 2 surfaces within your setup. As this is not supported with Dual Rack.
You could have 2 independent system e.g. FOH/Monitors connected with a digital mic split.

FOH T-112 – iDR48 and Monitors T80 – iDR32 connected via ACE

Once you have used up all of your input channels on the iDR48 you can use the inputs on the iDR32 and tunnel them down the ACE link.
To send inputs from the iDR32 to the iDR48, go to the outputs page on the idr32 sel the tab ‘Port B’ then output mixrack inputs sockets that you wish to send to the iDR48.
Then go to the iDr48 and on the ramaining input channels you have left source the input from port B on the relative channels.

Please Note: the draw back with this setup is that you will not have control of the Analogue gain from the FOH surface T112 only a Trim control. Setting up analogue gain for the idr32 inputs will have to be done by the monitor engineer or you could run editor connected to the iDR32 so you can adjust the gain via a laptop from FOH.

Hope this helps
Sam A&H

I’m sure the answer is included in one of the responses above, but still felt the need to clarify a little further.

Digital Mic Split:
– You will need two ACE cards, because each rack pretty much operates independently, because channels are processed independently. You use the ACE cards as a way to route signals between consoles. Yes, you can use the local inputs on the Mon desk, and route them to the house, but preamp control is on the Mon desk.

Dual Rack Mode:
– One ACE card on the Master Rack. This ACE connection is used to route signal between the two racks. All your output busses are routed through this card. Processing for the Slave rack is done at the Slave Rack, that is why those inputs can only be routed to channels 65 and up.
– You need to patch the network bridge Cat5 between the PortB ACE card and the iDR network port so the Master iDR has control over the Slave iDR.
– Outputs can be patched into whatever socket in whatever rack you want. That is the whole function of the PortB ACE card on the Master rack.

Hope this clears things out a little.

Gil Parente
Design & Integration
Entertainment Arts, Inc.

Hi Stephen

Dual surface has been requested before. R&D are looking into this feature for a future release.

Soon the iPad App will be available that should make things easier and more flexible []

Regards
Sam A&H