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[ZeroParticipant]

Out of curiosity along the same lines, is DAW control going to support channel names on the scribble strips? I realise that this requires a control surface protocol other than MIDI (like MackieControl, HUI protocol, etc), but especially with the SQ series, this would be awesome!

Hi,

i wanted to know if it’s possible to receive all MIDI-Messages via USB on Windows with a DAW (Reaper) to map them via custom actions on channel-actions without needing the DAW-Control-Mode on the QU.

I’d like to sync the Console to the DAW including PEQ, Comp, Gate, etc. with the channel bidirectonally. Therefore i’d like to know, if it’s possible to receive the NRPN messages with or without the DAWControl driver on Windows. I’m able to map these messages to custom scripted actions in the DAW.

On Linux i’m able to see the messages from the console on channel 1 and the DAW-Control on channel 2 like it’s described in the QU-MIDI-Protocol. On Windows i didn’t find any appropriate MIDI-Sniffer to verify if i’m receiving these messages too. Also i don’t know which MIDI-Ports i have to select in the DAW for in/out. The DAWControl-Driver shows DAW MIDI CONTROL 1, 2, 3 and 4 plus an additional one or two.

Thank you for your answer!

Best regards,

Smokehead

[nottooloudParticipant]

Bome Box speaks A&H protocol over ethernet, USB, and 9 pin MIDI, and can translate commands as a standalone device. I’m using it to run sends on my Qu32 with a Behringer BCR controller.

[RyanParticipant]

The QuPad app uses a custom protocol, not MIDI over TCP.

[GregParticipant]

BTW – I’m also open to any other workarounds anyone has to offer. Reading the MIDI protocol document, I was initially optimistic that I’d be able to send MIDI commands straight to the mixing board (a QuPac) from BandHelper over the same wifi link that I use to communicate between QuPad and the QuPac. But at this point, I don’t think that is actually possible. I think QuPad has already opened the port used to send MIDI over TCP, so I’m unable to open a second socket to that port for BandHelper to use.

I’ve also considered trying some of the tiny Bluetooth-to-USB dongles that are available. That could possibly do it, although most of those talk about needing a driver which causes me doubts given the non-PC/non-Mac environment.

For now, hardwired it is. But long term I’d love to cut the cord one way or another.

[lightingman117Participant]

The AVIOM gear looks like a good workaround…

Please no, the AVIOM equipment sucks compared to ME’s. [the new A360 is better/closer; but unless you find the APP useful then I’d stick with A&H ME-x series].

FYI ME-1/500 via ME-U can take AVIOM, Dante, MADI, EtherSound, ACE, MMO.

Hi everyone. I have a bunch of questions related to SQ mixers used in a studio environment — I’m planning a new studio build and was thinking of making the SQ6 the centrepiece. I like the idea of a dedicated mixer with on-board effects, zero-latency headphone mixes using the ME series along with incorporating the DX168 in a live room with everything network-connected using Dante and S-link. My proposed setup is as follows:

Do you want all rooms connected to all rooms?
You are limited to 144 total inputs selectable (48 mixable).

Studio A — SQ6 interfacing to Mac running Pro Tools HD native with Dante
Live room — DX168 (connected to SQ6 via S-link) with 4 X ME series mixers

Studio B — SQ5 interfacing to Mac running Pro Tools HD native with Dante or alternatively, Focusrite Rednet 1
MIDI suite — Logic Pro and Ableton LIVE with Focusrite Rednet X2P

My understanding is two different studios. With SQ6 and SQ5 each respectively.

What do you guys think of this as a studio setup? Yay or nay?

I think you need to be aware of the limitations as well as the advantages of the SQ ecosystem. In order for you to understand this I suggest you diagram it out how YOU think it should/will work. Don’t make us do your legwork. That said, we’re all here to help so if you get stuck ask away!

Dante is going to be your friend here if you want the routing.

Specific questions:

➊ I understand the internal sample rate of SQ mixers is 96kHz however, when using the 32×32 USB interface with a DAW, is it possible to use other sample rates, namely 44.1 and 48kHz?

If not with the USB interface, what about with the Dante option card?
In other words, can I record to Pro Tool using a sample rate other than 96kHz?

➋ Any word on when Dante cards will be available? And what is the approx. cost?

➌ Is it possible to write automation to a DAW via the SQ mixers? I read somewhere here that “DAW control is still in development”

➍ With the DX168 connected to the SQ6, how many inputs will I see on the mixer? I note that there are only 24 physical inputs on the SQ6 so I’m assuming you can expand to 48 via the DX168. Please correct me if I’m wrong on this 🙂

Thanks in advance for your help! Cheers

First, you WILL have to WAIT for the sLink & Dante cards to become available for the SQ series in order for your proposed setup to be even remotely possible.

Second, you’ll also want to wait for a firmware that allows PAFL to be routed to a balanced output instead of just headphone jack.

To your questions:

1) I’m trying to find a reference; but yes, you can run other sample rates external to the SQ-x board.
Dante can do any sample rate – but I imagine they will limit it to 48kHz as most devices are that way.

2) you should search more, another user just asked that question AGAIN; no and no [though it is A&H’s top priority].

3) midi control is not enabled and under development for SQ mixers. After it is enabled/working, yes you can do anything you want with that protocol.

4) You will see 24-local(1 for talkback) + 16-sLink inputs and 14-local + 8-sLink outputs.

[Ando_ShyParticipant]

The MIDI protocol specs are essential and effectively was the deciding factor on picking up a QU-SB mixer for me. I was originally on the fence as it seems risky to me to invest in a system that can only be controlled via iPad. You never know how long a company will continue app support and development, especially with pro audio gear as the amount of support largely depends on adoption rates. However, I am also a software developer and open sourcing control protocols means I can always develop my own control software should the app be abandoned.
With all that said I have basically been able to get everything working via the provided MIDI protocols. However, I have run into difficulty with the Sysex protocol. So my question is does the QU-SB send meter data over USB MIDI or only with network (TCP) MIDI? Because I’ve tried polling for the meter data and running the Sysex All Call over USB MIDI and I receive no reply from the console. All the other controls and buttons return MIDI messages as expected.

[VancegParticipant]

I note in the manual that it appears that MIDI Strips are assigned to layers on the console, and then the DAW CONTROL DRIVER is used to translate these MIDI messages into standardized DAW control messages. This does answer some of my questions above (I don’t know why this isn’t in the manual I had last month… or I simply missed it).

Id still love to know if the SQ and the DAW control driver will support more than 8 channels of Mackie Control Protocol at one time, and if Scribble Strips will be supported.

I understand that DAW control on the SQ series is “In Development”. I’d like to know a few things about what to expect on DAW control So that I might determine which of my customers might benefit from it and how I can help them integrate the SQ into their workflow.

Can anyone here point me to a manual or general description of how DAW control will function on the SQ series?
Here are a few specific questions that I’d like to have answer for if anyone knows.

– I understand (from another post on the forum) that the DAW control will operate through the use of “MIDI STRIPS” which can be assigned to any layer/bank we wish. I hear that there will be up to 32 of these strips. Is this accurate and do all versions of the SQ consoles have the same 32 channel capability?

– What control protocol does the DAW control utilize? Mackie Control? HUI? ICON? Custom/Proprietary?

– If it uses Mackie Protocol, will the SQ series support more than one 8 channel bank of control at a time (Some other digital consoles only support 8 channels of Mackie control at a time… and that’s not useful for our needs).

– Can you confirm that scribble strip information is transferred from the DAW to the SQ? (will scribble strips work)

[Alex A&HKeymaster]

Hi Nakul,

Have you followed this instructions in our DAW Control Setup document?

Here are the steps for Ableton:

1.Select the Mackie Control protocol in the DAW Control paneland launch Live.
2.Open the Live / Preferences window and navigate to the MIDI/Synctab.
3.Select MackieControl in the Control Surface #1 dropdown box, and set DAW Control MIDI 1 as the Input and Output port.
4.For each consequent block of 8 MIDI strips present on the mixer, create a Mackie Control Extender device and assign it to the corresponding MIDI port. The following example assumes 16 MIDI strips are used:
a.Select MackieControlXT in the Control Surface #2 dropdown box, and set DAW Control MIDI 2 as the Input and Output port.
5.Close the window

Thanks!

Alex

I am sorry, because I think, my questions are the same like a lot of other people had, but I don’t understand this hundreds of articles and tutorials about recording to QU-drive, into DAW, with MIDI-protocols and so on and so on…

Would it be possible to get a clear step by step manual, what I have to do for this task, with the A&H Qu16:

I want to record a selection of 16 Channels plus stereo-channel 17+18 (my Keyboard) into Cubase 9.5 Elements AND want to playback at the same time a additional track in Cubase, where I importet an mp3-playback.

What I have to do? Step by step?

I also experimented with MIDI-connection to Cubase, but have a lot of problems with this also (I get strange tracks, no wave-picture, only vertical stripes and don’t know, how to include the stereo-channel 17+18…). So perhaps it would be easier for the first to record with USB-B to the DAW without MIDI-control (I don’T know?).

Perhaps I could record also to an USB-harddisk, an play the playback from Cubase and the copy the tracks from the harddisk to Cubase, but it would be nicer to record directly into the DAW…

At which channel must be the playback from the PC, not to disturb the recording? And is it possible to leave the keyboard on channel 17+18 ST1?

I hope anybody has mercy with me, an absolute beginner on QU16 and Cubase and can tell me in easy words, what I have to do (my englisch is not perferct, but it wioll be possible with a dictionary 🙂

[RyanParticipant]

Couldn’t an offline editor basically be something similar to the QU-Pad app that just stores all the settings to a file as midi commands, then when connected to the board, you just dump the file to the board? The board doesn’t care how the commands are received, whether live from an app or sequentially from a file.

There are limitations to what settings can be changed with midi. The Qu-Pad app uses a custom protocol to transfer settings/control the mixer.

I’m pleased to say that the new V1.2 firmware for Bome’s BomeBox supports Allen & Heath dLive, GLD and Qu mixers over a network connection.
The BomeBox can be used to interface dLive’s TCP Protocol <-> 5-pin MIDI.
Have fun!

[agustinvolpeParticipant]

in the midi protocol manual> “Qu uses Bank Select and Program Change messages for Scene recall. Only Bank 1 is used.”
So, can I set up a number of scenes with the iPad, and then directly change between those scenes using normal program changes?
What do I need to set NRPN for?

[AndreasModerator]

At least powering down the Mixer could be automated using the proper MIDI Sequence (see “Remote Shutdown” in Qu MIDI Protocol). All you need is a tiny tool which is started when the PC enters its shutdown sequence, connects to the Desk and sends the MIDI command. Could be done through network or USB. Sending a fixed data packet to a fixed IP address shouldn’t be too complicated to implement.