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KarlTL
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Originally posted by tk2k

Hi Karl,

Can’t stress enough how good the iLive tutorial videos are, they give you a really fantastic overview of the console, and they are quite accuritly named, meaning if you are looking for one feature you can watch a 5 min video instead of skipping through a 2 hour training DVD. They’re on youtube on the A&H account

1: Yes, there’s an outputs screen, but also you can select a prefrence so when you hold the ALT VIEW button it’ll show the physical input or output its routed to.

2: There’s an outputs button under the touch screen. Has all that info in it.

3: iLive has 64 ‘channels’ of DSP power, you can double-soft-patch and so on, so no matter if its an idr-64 or -16 you have the same DSP. Channel 60 could be a clone of another input, and iPod in from the surface, or anything else. No real good way to tell you what it is without seeing it.

there’s a great web app called iLive Viewer http://www.ilive-t.com/viewer that will generate output paperworks etc from a showfile. Really useful for configs you are not familiar with.

iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College


Hey tk,

Thanks for the reply..

1: Yes, there’s an outputs screen, but also you can select a prefrence so when you hold the ALT VIEW button it’ll show the physical input or output its routed to.

Preferences are set up to show scribble strip/input chan name normally. I can press the “Alt View” button and this does display the physical input for an input channel but it doesn’t display the physical output channel. This makes sense for an INPUT that may be routed to multiple destinations but for an Aux send, running to a physical output that feeds a stage wedge amp, it seems like there should be an easy way to see what physical output the send is going to.

2: There’s an outputs button under the touch screen. Has all that info in it.
I’ve been looking at the outputs screen. I did see it in one of the training videos on the A&H site, it’s mentioned briefly but theres no detailed description I can find that explains the symbology used.

For example, on the outputs screen, below the Main L/R buss’s, I can press the screen and it flips through multiple outputs that those buss’ are routed to. It seems to show routings to “B52” and “B53” (among others). This doesn’t seem to make much sense though since “B” group jacks are input’s on both the iDR48 and the xDR16….(physical output jacks being groups G,H & I on the iDR48 and group C on the xDR16).

3: iLive has 64 ‘channels’ of DSP power, you can double-soft-patch and so on, so no matter if its an idr-64 or -16 you have the same DSP. Channel 60 could be a clone of another input, and iPod in from the surface, or anything else. No real good way to tell you what it is without seeing it.

I feel fairly comfortable with the overall DSP structure (64 in, 32 buss, 32 out’s). Whats confusing me is that I can bring up screens that show input’s but, going back to my example of the SUB out, if I press the Alt View button, the SUB out MIx/Master strip does show S-B3 (curious why neither the Main L/R show anything). Seems to indicate that it’s routed to the mix surface output B3…problem is there’s nothing physically plugged into surface output B3. When I saw this I looked at the system diagrams from the original installer, they show the sub amp connected to physical jack I8 on the iDR48 rack. I can unplug that and the sub definitely is lost. But when I bring up the output’s screen for that jack, it says the source is a direct out from IP chan 60. When I bring up the input chan screen chan 60 shows nothing.

I’m guessing that Chan 60 may actually be DSP buss 60 and not an actual physical jack but i cant sort out a way to look at it.

Thanks for the link to the iLive viewer. I have captured copies of all Shows and scenes on a USB stick, I’ll print them out with the viewer and see if that makes more sense.

Thanks again for the reply, I know it’s difficult to give definitive answers on a forum like this (I may not even be phrasing the question, or describing the problem correctly) but I sure do appreciate you trying! Maybe I’ll see if I can print the viewer description of the show and attach it to a post. Would that make more sense?

Thanks and all the best!

Karl

Reference Point Recording
Salt Lake City, Ut.