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Originally posted by luces

Good day and thanks for the forums. I am hoping to glean a bit more info and some pre purchase guidance. All help is greatly appreciated.

We are a live band that plays approx 210 gigs a year and we play small pubs to big outdoor festivals. Some of these gigs are semi permanent and some are one nighters. We need a system with FOH Mix and four seperate monitor mixes. We are all using in ear monitors.

We need at least 24 channels of ins and mixing capability. We are considering the R72 desk and the iDR32 mixrack.

Now to the questions:Regarding the R72 and the system in general:

1 My understanding is that the Cat5 only handles commands from the R72 and does not actually send/rec. audio. Is that correct?

2 If so, how does the FOH hear audio when he is soloing an instrument?

3 How many FX engines are included in the iDR32? I use the term engines because I am familiar with the Yamaha 01V96 as that is our current console. We need a minimum of 3 Stereo FX Processors. Is the iDR32 capable of this?

4 We are currently using a MixWizard for our monitor board and while it is great we would like to get rid of it. So what do we need to run monitors on stage? Do we need another surface or would the PL remotes work for us?

5 If we decide to keep the MixWizard,could we just send direct outs from the iDR32 into the MixWizard?

I am sure that I will have more questions as I study the possibilties more,however,I think this is all I can think of for now.

So based on the provided info,would someone please suggest a simple and complete system for our needs?

Thanks VERY much!!!!


1&2. Actually the ACE cable carries audio and control information.(ACE stands for Audio Control over Ethernet) While all of the audio is processed in the Mixrack there are inputs and outputs on the control surfaces.

3. You can have up to 8 stereo effects units.

4. Several options here. If you hook up a wireless router you can use an iPad with the MixPad app or any laptop running the editor software to control it. You could also use the PL remotes, but I think the other options will be more useful.

5. Yes you could, but I think you’ll find the mix wizard unnecessary, but they are nice little mixers for sure.

Oh and fwiw I don’t have an iLive system yet. Just looking around and learning until ours gets here. I would highly suggest downloading the editor software and trying it out. It may take a bit to get a handle on, but once you do you’ll begin to understand just how cool these systems can be. Also as far as a complete system goes. It’s my understanding you can actually run the MixRack with just a laptop. So a control surface isn’t even required, but for most people it would be worth the investment. Our church is planning on getting a T112/48 system and I plan on running monitors from the stage with laptop and maybe eventually an iPad. Should easily cover all our needs.

Looking at a T112/48. :-)